Hardy is BY FAR the worst Ubuntu version yet. LOCKUP WARNING!!!

**thejinx0r** · April 27th, 2008

I found the RC more useable than the final release... :S

**Palu** · April 27th, 2008

My "household" (a college community involving about 10 users) has now upgraded and everyone with the wireless card Intel Proset Wireless 3945 have now lost ability to connect to the internet. None of us are very technical. I mean, I'm a recently graduated technical developer, but I'm pretty recently from Windows too.

That's a major card for Dells and Asus, so it's a big issue.

**yessriram** · April 27th, 2008

Have the same problem too. Freezes real hard. Absolutely no reaction to any key combinations. Time of freezing is as unpredictable.

I did an upgrade from 7.10 initially, realised there were issues; did a fresh install. The problem re-surfaced.

My machine- Gateway solo 1450. All the previous versions have worked like a charm. Been on this since 2005.

Waiting to hear the problems resolved...

**wobster** · April 27th, 2008

Oh well. The only upgrade that ever worked seamlessly here was feisty->gutsy. And gutsy was rock-solid in the end.

Sadly, this release is a complete mess indeed.

**Jim March** · April 27th, 2008

I'm still on the -rt repository kernel and it has indeed solved all my problems. However, it's not a cure for everybody. Sigh. That in turn means there may be multiple causes of the freeze-ups.

**bobnutfield** · April 27th, 2008

I have had Hardy installed from Beta since about mid-march on a new laptop purchase. I have followed the updates religiously and I believe Hardy is now about 90% stable. But, I am still getting the occassional lock-up, as Jim March describes. Firefox is still so full of bugs (3 beta 5) it's like a nest of ****-roaches.

I am one of the luckier ones here who seems to have been reasonably successful in getting Hardy to a near-stable state. But there are dozens and dozens of horror stories on this forum, both for new installs and upgrades. I have been using Ubuntu since 2006 and have never seen a distro released with so many problems still inherent in the release build. What amazes me is that whenever there is a thread started about Hardy being worse than previous releases, some people post as though we are crazy and Hardy MUST be perfect because it is working well on THEIR machine. There are too many people posting terrific problems here for it to isolated to just a few. Jim March seems to be a reasonably knowledgable user who also seems to have nothing against Ubuntu as a distro. His is NOT the only knowledgable opinion that Hardy is just not ready.

I am going to stick with Hardy because I have no mission-critical work being done on my laptop, but if I did, I could not afford to stay with it. And, like Jim March, I am concerned that as Hardy and it's problems spread throughout the new-user community, Ubuntu's reputation as THE distro of choice for new linux converts is definately in jeopardy.

Bob

**Jim March** · April 27th, 2008

I just want to add that they'll probably get it sorted, almost certainly via a kernel update.

I'm also doing my best to help - so far as I know I'm the first to try the -rt kernel as a fix and while it's not helping everyone, some besides myself are reporting success.

Meanwhile I'm going to take a second crack at compiling 2.6.25 later today.

**Redrazor39** · April 28th, 2008

If I had learned how to code soon enough, I would've jumped on the boat and helped. I need a working system though and can't risk such a buggy release.

This is just pitiful.

**Jim March** · April 28th, 2008

Well NOW it'll get fixed!!! A reviewer over at ITWire ran into the random lockups problem:

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/17863/1103/1/3/

Guess we're not imagining things, eh?

**factotum218** · April 28th, 2008

Originally Posted by adityakavoor

I agree

As do I. The highest priority bug seems to be that Windows is number one according to Ubuntu. If thats all they want is a market share then I might be going back to Slackware or FreeBSD. I have given Ubuntu a chance off and on for the last three years with nothing but problems. With Slackware, and FreeBSD and dare I say debian (I know, ubuntu loves debian blah blah blah, thats all total bs) I have not had one problem since my first install back in '01.
And, not to mention this gem I came across while trying to address the issues I had:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PainlessUpgrade
A complete reinstall to upgrade a supposed desktop for the masses distro? I am ashamed to be affiliated with Ubuntu as a user of GNU/Linux.