Hardy is BY FAR the worst Ubuntu version yet. LOCKUP WARNING!!!

[vexorian]

huh trollish title.

How many people have experienced this in the retail version anyway?, 3, five? of all those who installed hardy since it was released...

[schtufbox]

I'm using 2.6.24-16-rt kernel, hardy is working fine for me Apart from one slight bug, but it's not a hardy issue I don't think, more a metacity one :0

[siulca]

I agree that this release is to premature for a final release.

With previous versions I had to fix a few things but at least the internet was working out of the box. This time the network stopped working so it's too painful o try and fix anything without the internet. So I'm downloading 7.10 for a fresh install.

I suggested somewhere else it would be a good idea to give each release a rough maturity rating so that we don't waste time and put off potential Ubuntu users with failed installs/upgrades.

[elgilicious]

I'm going to have to disagree with you. The Linksys WUSB54Gv4 wireless adapter on my desktop, the Broadcom (yes, Broadcom!) wireless card on one of my laptops, and my NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 graphics card are working "out of the box." In Gutsy and Feisty, I had to install all of those things manually. For the noob, Hardy has better default apps (especially Firefox), and (is it just me?) faster performance than it predecessors. On a side note, sound recorder now works for me because of the inclusion of Pulse audio.

So it locks up...blame it on the drivers, not the OS. It's the price we pay for having either bleeding edge tech or antiquated tech. From what I can surmise from the posts I read in these forums, most people find Hardy a vast improvement; and I guess that those people have mid-range rigs.

[FredB]

Tell me something I don't know. The bug is still open against -16 and is crashing machines in unchanged fashion across the entire Hardy alpha, beta AND release cycles. Which is why I posted to that thread that a brand new production-Hardy install was breaking in the same fashion.

Did I say something contrary to this ? Are you deaf ? I have NO strange behaviour like the one you're talking about.

In desperation I've installed an am running the Hardy realtime (-rt) kernel from the repos. Dunno if that'll help. It might, as whatever is going on is "load related" and -rt alters the load handling process.

Good luck.

If this breaks I'm compiling 2.6.25.

Good luck again.

Having a system with a fundamentally broken error handler is bad luck for all of us. We do NOT know the cause, only that this is happening. YOU have no idea what tiny tweak will bring this hell down around your ears.

If I don't face it, am I guilty ? Don't "child me". I am a grown up, and being happy with gutsy. Maybe it is an hardware problem. Who knows ?

[Jim March]

huh trollish title.

How many people have experienced this in the retail version anyway?, 3, five? of all those who installed hardy since it was released...

It's not hardware, I went back to Gutsy briefly to confirm that.

Sigh. Look, even a driver issue should cause a total lockup like this. People with this lockup issue seem to be curing it with kernel swaps...so far in my case -rt is looking OK, not confirmed yet, others are saying compile .23 or .25. OK.

As to how many are affected: on the Hardy development forum (now closed down), the biggest discussion on these lockups ran 11 pages if I recall right. So I'm hardly the only one. And since the symptoms were *exactly* the same from late alpha through all betas and now into production, looks to me like it kicked in during the 2.6.24 kernel compile and never left. In this forum right now some guy posted a "kernel panic" thread (with zero answers) that's an exact match to this issue.

FredB: As to me talking down to you, you're the one that told me that the latest kernel is -16 when I had posted that I'd just installed a fresh production build. Trust me, I noted the kernel rev.

[malangaman]

I want you all to know that I am learning a great deal reading this thread. The child jabs are are,funny coming from brainy computer geeks. I am happy with Gutsy and will not upgrade until your problem is solved. Please report back your progress.

[Jim March]

The real lessons are here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/204996

In my case, hours of serious pounding have proved to me that the -rt (realtime) kernel straight out of the Hardy repos fixed my issues 100%, with about the only downside looking like maybe a 10% (tops) chop in video performance. At least one person reported a failure though.

It looks like we've got multiple causes of these lockups. Which takes us back to my point: error checking is haywire somewhere.

[El Lance-O]

I too am disappointed with this release. I was hoping it to be the best release so far, but it's TERRIBLE.

All of my folder thumbnails in my music folder (I use album art as icons) are smaller and look TERRIBLE. All my launchers on my desktop which before didn't have titles, simply icons, now are all .desktop files which I can't change.

When I boot, my CPU goes CRAZY, freezing everything up for a good couple minutes before settling down. I can't even open the main menu when this happens.

Flash is worse than ever, eating more CPU than before.

Everything is just SLOW SLOW SLOW!

I really regret ever upgrading, but I already had a hardy libc6 on Gutsy to get the Wii Whiteboard app to work, so I kind of HAD to upgrade or else deal with the subsequent problems.

My wifi LED on my Dell Inspiron 1505n won't turn on now, and I've read in a thread on this problem that this is caused by the ipw3945 driver that from what I have gathered, sucks.

My biggest concerns is the CPU usage from random processes that I don't recognize or don't have names at all. What is this nonsense?!

I really hope everything works out fine, but in the meantime I have an external in the mail, so I will be backing everything up and doing a fresh hardy install.

If that doesn't work, I will go back to Gutsy I guess, no matter how much I would HATE to do that.

COME ON DEVELOPERS, WHAT HAPPENED?!

[bbmak]

I agree, i would downgrade my to 7.10