Hardy is BY FAR the worst Ubuntu version yet. LOCKUP WARNING!!!

[Zach_the_Lizard]

As a new user of Ubuntu, and someone who has limited knowledge of Linux in general (but I am fairly technical and will learn soon), Ubuntu 8 was excellent for me and an upgrade over the previous version. I didn't have to compile this or that, or go into a terminal and wget the nvidia drivers because the screen is all screwed up. Nor did I have to fool around with getting my Broadcom wireless drivers working.

All I had to do was use the install cd, connect an ethernet cable to download the non-free drivers and then I could be untethered.

Ubuntu is years ahead of Vista, and I, a long time Windows user have made the change. All I miss is a few games. I also am missing the massive harddrive corruptio n that screwed over my Vista installation, and Vista's lack of ability to install without messing with the BIOS. This is the first time I can say Linux installed more flawlessly than Windows. Progress has been made. It's far better than when I tried using Fedora.

For me, Ubuntu 8 is the best Linux has to offer. But then again, I've only used Fedora and Ubuntu.

As a side note, I really loved the live cd install as you play around idea. It's great being able to browse the web with Firefox while the OS is installing.

[tenmoi]

Hardy Heron is the BEST distro ever because I know when exactly it will crash and WHY. I am lucky here 'cos I can easily reproduce the crash.
Under mild load it will NOT lock up. Tell it to copy a big file (in my case 3 or 4 Gigabite)and it locks up. Tell it to compile kernel 2.6.25 and it locks up half way through the compilation. Tell it to download 100 M files and play an avi file with VLC and it locks up. TARDY Heron is in fact so tardy that it cannot do heavy work.

Back to Windows and wait for some months for this to be straightened out.

[Junk_head]

A whole lotta hate brewing here...

Im having lock-ups too but you know what are you gonna do? I'll wait for the updates, I think it might have to do with dual booting on my side, i installed hardy with vista on the side. This occurred issue with gutsy too, i did a clean install with just a gutsy only hdd and problems gone. I also used a hardy RC .iso, when i should have just waited for the official release. But it seems these lock-ups are occurring with the official release aswell. So dunno what im gonna do.

[FredB]

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[Guilden_NL]

Forget the lack of driver support, the lockups (yes I have them non-stop) what bothers me is the inability to blacklist drivers or better yet, do a Microsoft style install and tell the OS to ignore: "A, B or Wireless" (as many of us have had the poor result with HH).

That will allow Linux to make a dent in the desktop. HH has made a huge backward leap and may have killed any forward momentum that GG had going.

[Guilden_NL]

I like Ubuntu, but I can only wait for a few more days. What's really bothers me is that I feel I no longer have an option to suggest to Linux newcommers...since, $1,500 paperweight. Even if this is fixed, soon, I don't know what to think about that. I couldn't recommend Ubuntu now.

BINGO! I agree, no bashing here for the fun of it, but I've been smacked hard for making negative comments. I've decided to move to SUSE and pull my entire home network to it, and not ever mention Ubuntu in my 150,000 + employer where I am an enterprise architect.

Too many Canonical people with fragile personalities lurking about with hard deadlines tattoo'd on their foreheads.

[FredB]

What is your hardware ? Even Windows doesn't support all existing hardware on Earth.

I have kinda special hardware on my laptop - including the horrible atheros 5007eg wifi hardware - and it works flawlessly.

Can't understand, that's all.

But I think if we go back 6 months ago, we could see the same "complaining and whining", replacing Hardy by Gusty and Gutsy by Feisty.

So, what's new after all ?

[Polygon]

so roll back to gutsy until it gets fixed

you are forgetting that not everyone has these problems, jsut because a small percentage of the population are getting these lockups doesnt mean the entire release is bad. For me hardy is working perfectly, and i love it.

Maybe for the next version you should try the alphas and betas and report bugs so they get fixed BEFORE the final product gets released, so its better for everyone

[SomeGuyDude]

I have an extremely infrequent lockup.

The thing is, my opinion on this kind of thing is quite different than with Windows. While on Windows I accepted periodic lockups because it worked for the most part and I had no idea how to use Linux, with Ubuntu I overlook the lockups because I've noticed that has the updates roll in, they become more and more uncommon. Give it a week and they'll be gone.

[FredB]

BINGO! I agree, no bashing here for the fun of it, but I've been smacked hard for making negative comments. I've decided to move to SUSE and pull my entire home network to it, and not ever mention Ubuntu in my 150,000 + employer where I am an enterprise architect.

Too many Canonical people with fragile personalities lurking about with hard deadlines tattoo'd on their foreheads.

You're free to go with SuSE, which is slow and fat.

If you don't talk your 150 000 employees about ubuntu, they will heard of it another way.

There is about 100 distros right now. If you don't like one, go for another, and stop breaking nerves of other people with your posts.