Hardy is BY FAR the worst Ubuntu version yet. LOCKUP WARNING!!!

[Jim March]

Some users, myself included, are experiencing random total lockups. The systems are freezing up so tight there's no way to get diagnostics info. It's affecting different video chipsets, different WiFi chipsets, some Ethernet users, there is NO pattern to the hardware involved.

A bug has been issued to the kernel team, priority high, marked "triaged":

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ux/+bug/204996

Today I did a fresh install from the release CD, standard 32bit, Intel945 video, Atheros WiFi, all standard parts on an Acer laptop that handled Feisty and Gutsy like a champ. No overheating. 1.5gigs RAM, swap stats show zero use so it's not corrupted swap.

I don't think the devs are going to be able to fix this one easily. There's just NO feedback or debugging info possible. When Fedora 9 releases I may be forced to abandon ship.

This really sucks.

[HunterThomson]

Why move to Fedora? Why not just use Gusty which worked so well? That is what I did.

[qball]

I fixed the issue myself by installing a 2.6.23 kernel. (installed myself).

[Jim March]

qball: do you mean "compiled it yourself"? I'm considering doing that with .25 .

But there's a bigger issue and this addresses Hunter: first, something has gone tragically wrong with how Hardy error-traps. Linux is flat-out NOT supposed to do this.

Second, I install and support desktop Linux setups for clients, on average a new one every month or so. I have to be concerned about them, going into the future. Ubuntu has taken a huge steaming dump on it's user base. Hardy should have been delayed a month or more. I don't know that it's right for me to chain them to something that's gone visibly diseased.

[FredB]

2.6.24-12 version is obsolete. Hardy version for release is 2.6.24-16.

I'm using an acer laptop (5520eg) and my hardy 64bits works perfectly. Bad luck, maybe.

[adityakavoor]

Hardy is BY FAR the worst Ubuntu version yet

I agree

[Jim March]

2.6.24-12 version is obsolete. Hardy version for release is 2.6.24-16.

Tell me something I don't know. The bug is still open against -16 and is crashing machines in unchanged fashion across the entire Hardy alpha, beta AND release cycles. Which is why I posted to that thread that a brand new production-Hardy install was breaking in the same fashion.

In desperation I've installed an am running the Hardy realtime (-rt) kernel from the repos. Dunno if that'll help. It might, as whatever is going on is "load related" and -rt alters the load handling process.

If this breaks I'm compiling 2.6.25.

I'm using an acer laptop (5520eg) and my hardy 64bits works perfectly. Bad luck, maybe.

Having a system with a fundamentally broken error handler is bad luck for all of us. We do NOT know the cause, only that this is happening. YOU have no idea what tiny tweak will bring this hell down around your ears.

[fdimmling]

Originally Posted by adityakavoor I agree

Me not.

Installed Hardy on an Acer 4652 LMi with 1GB RAM and Intel 940 Graphics. Works quite well except for ugly Chinese characters which is due to a font substitution problem.

Friedrich

[sirdilznik]

I had problems with the 2.6.24 kernels too. Manually compiled and installed 2.6.25 and everything is A-OK!

[Jim March]

What I figured. OK. I'm going to stick with .24-rt for a bit, see if that makes a diff. For my own purposes I have no problem compiling .25 but I have to be concerned about customer systems and I'd rather not go custom-kernel there.