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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Quick update - Desktop Effects will not enable unless xserver-xgl is installed. Yes the effects work, but they are retardedly slow and I get video corruption on occasion and video performance overall is sluggish.
    Now I'm a little pissed that I upgraded without running the live CD first!
    Everything was working fine with 7.10 - desktop effects were smooth and fast, and overall video performance was very good. I'd do a clean install but I have Windoze on another partition and don't want to chance blowing it up, Plus I've done lots of customizing in Ubuntu and don't really want to start from scratch

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    I tested this on the live CD. One thing I did was copy/paste my Gutsy xorg to 8.04's live cd's xorg, then added in the 'skip checks' in the /usr/bin/compiz. Logged out, logged back in, and it worked. I have an IBM Thinkpad R40.

    For the most part, all the effects work. There's a bit of weirdness here and there, but that may be due to using the live CD....

    Hoping everything will work without a hitch when I do get around to install it.
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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Quote Originally Posted by hodenkat View Post
    Quick update - Desktop Effects will not enable unless xserver-xgl is installed. Yes the effects work, but they are retardedly slow and I get video corruption on occasion and video performance overall is sluggish.
    Now I'm a little pissed that I upgraded without running the live CD first!
    Everything was working fine with 7.10 - desktop effects were smooth and fast, and overall video performance was very good. I'd do a clean install but I have Windoze on another partition and don't want to chance blowing it up, Plus I've done lots of customizing in Ubuntu and don't really want to start from scratch
    Did you use XGL with 7.10? I'm still confused about that, as XGL is a workaround for drivers that don't support a certain OpenGL function. This function is supported by Nvidea, Intel, open-source ATI, and newer versions of the proprietary ATI drivers. What guide told you to install XGL?

    In any case, if you followed the guide in the first post, try removing the "AccelMethod" option. I just tried using that one and it made everything slow and choppy.
    Last edited by CarpKing; April 27th, 2008 at 10:11 AM.

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Got it!

    I followed the Sticky Post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764633

    Now it's working just as it did in 7.10... smooth and without corruption or any other issues as far as I can tell.

    Thank for the help!
    I can once again love my Ubuntu...

    Oh! Very important!
    Remove xserver-xgl - it causes software rendering and will cause effects to be slow and may cause other issues. Just search this board on removing it using terminal.
    Do that first, then follow the instructions at the top of the sticky post link!
    Last edited by hodenkat; April 28th, 2008 at 02:20 AM. Reason: important note

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    hello

    i have a Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card, i was able to turn compiz on using the workaround on the previous page, but this brought a new problem, it only worked up to 1024x768 screen resolution, and since my laptop lcd does 1400x1050, i want it all hihii.

    with the help of this thread i was able to make compiz work on 1400 screen resolution.

    Here it is mu xorg.conf file:

    Code:
    Section "Module" #ADDED THIS
    Load "glx"
    Load "GLcore"
    Load "v4l"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Driver		"kbd"
    	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
    	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"
    	Option		"XkbLayout"	"pt"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
    	Driver		"mouse"
    	Option		"CorePointer"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Synaptics Touchpad"
    	Driver		"synaptics"
    	Option		"SendCoreEvents"	"true"
    	Option		"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
    	Option		"Protocol"		"auto-dev"
    	Option		"HorizEdgeScroll"	"0"
            Option          "SHMConfig"             "true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device" #CHANGED THIS
            Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
            Boardname "ATI Radeon"
            Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
    	Driver "radeon"
    	Screen 0
    	Vendorname "ATI"
    	Option "MergedFB" "off"
    	Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
    	Option "EXANoComposite" "false"
    	Option "FBTexPercent" "50"
    	Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
    	Option "DRI" "true"
    	Option "GARTSize" "64" <--------- WITH 256 DID NOT WORK
            Option "AGPMode" "4"
            Option "AGPFastWrite" "True"
            Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
    	Option "Colortiling" "On"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Default Screen"
    	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
    	Device		"Configured Video Device"
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout" #CHANGED HERE
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
    	screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
    	InputDevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
    	Option "AIGLX" "true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Extensions" #ADDED THIS
    	Option "Composite" "Enable"
    EndSection
    
    Section "DRI" #ADDED THIS
    	Mode 0666
    EndSection

    glxinfo |grep direct
    direct rendering: Yes

    the thing is, i think i lost fps in glxgears :s

    anyway, i dont need compiz, it was just something i had to get working just to say, it works lol

    but for games i dont think it will work, old laptop, 32Mb VRam vga, 600 fps average now (before was 650) so i dont get it how some of you have above that

    btw, i have an evo N1000v
    btw2, every time i run glxgears now i get this error in the end:

    XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
    after 36537 requests (29174 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

    any ideas ?
    Last edited by imperius69; October 2nd, 2008 at 12:51 AM.

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Heya guys,

    I'm a little green here when it comes to linux and ubuntu. I'd VERY much like to run compiz. But I don't know what happens if this guide fails. Will be computer still boot up and be useful, or do I have to reinstall linux if it fails?

    Jacob

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    First you need to know whats you card.
    lspci or lshw should tell you.

    then you should backup the files you change so you can later put them back via terminal.

    you should install, via synaptics, the Compiz configuration settings manager so you can adjust the effects, just look for compiz.

    the easier way to get compiz is with the workaround:

    [Compiz WORK-AROUND]
    Add "SKIP_CHECKS=yes" to either /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager or ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager

    Code:
    sudo gedit /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager
    then go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effect

    and try to turn on compiz by clicking on normal, if it works it will ask you if you want to keep the configuration, here you can see if your desktop is ok or if is half a desktop (like what happened to me, if that happens choose to go back to previous configuration and then you will have to edit your xorg.conf file).

    note that the workaround, from what i gathered only works up to 1024x768 screen resolution, beyond that you will have to edit the xorg.conf file.

    note also some users, after enabling compiz, have lost video output.

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Quote Originally Posted by imperius69 View Post
    First you need to know whats you card.
    lspci or lshw should tell you.

    then you should backup the files you change so you can later put them back via terminal.

    you should install, via synaptics, the Compiz configuration settings manager so you can adjust the effects, just look for compiz.

    the easier way to get compiz is with the workaround:

    [Compiz WORK-AROUND]
    Add "SKIP_CHECKS=yes" to either /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager or ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager

    Code:
    sudo gedit /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager
    then go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effect

    and try to turn on compiz by clicking on normal, if it works it will ask you if you want to keep the configuration, here you can see if your desktop is ok or if is half a desktop (like what happened to me, if that happens choose to go back to previous configuration and then you will have to edit your xorg.conf file).

    note that the workaround, from what i gathered only works up to 1024x768 screen resolution, beyond that you will have to edit the xorg.conf file.

    note also some users, after enabling compiz, have lost video output.
    I was thinking taking this guide as I have an ATI mobility Radeon 7500 on an R51 Thinkpad.

    How do I back up the files I change? Which files do I change? And how do I make use of those backups if I screw up?

    Jacob

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    hi

    well, the main file to backup is xorg.conf situated at /etc/X11/xorg.conf

    to back it up simply do

    Code:
    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
    to edit it do

    Code:
    sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    if u need to return to the old xorg file in the terminal do the same as before

    Code:
    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    but, remember, you dont need to edit the xorg file right away, first thing is to use the work around to see if compiz works, just dont use a screen size above 1024x768.

    And here it i my xorg.conf

    Section "Module"
    Load "glx"
    Load "GLcore"
    Load "v4l"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
    Driver "kbd"
    Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout" "pt"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Configured Mouse"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "CorePointer"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad"
    Driver "synaptics"
    Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
    Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
    Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    Identifier "Configured Video Device"
    Boardname "ATI Radeon"
    Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
    Driver "radeon"
    Screen 0
    Vendorname "ATI"
    Option "MergedFB" "off"
    #Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
    Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
    Option "EXANoComposite" "false"
    Option "FBTexPercent" "50"
    #Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
    Option "DRI" "true"
    Option "GARTSize" "64"
    Option "AGPMode" "4"
    Option "AGPFastWrite" "false"
    Option "EnablePageFlip" "True"
    Option "Colortiling" "On"
    #Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "True"
    Option "RenderAccel" "true"
    Option "NoRenderExtension" "false"
    Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
    Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"

    EndSection

    Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "Configured Monitor"
    EndSection

    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Default Screen"
    Monitor "Configured Monitor"
    Device "Configured Video Device"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "Default Layout"
    screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
    InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
    Option "AIGLX" "true"
    EndSection

    Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "Enable"
    EndSection

    Section "DRI"
    Mode 0666
    EndSection
    note Option "AccelMethod", im getting a more stable result with XAA then with EXA. The other options im still experimenting with.

    This page might give you more info about the option:

    http://linux.die.net/man/4/radeon

    also, browse this topic, as great info, and browse the forums and google, a lot of info around

    also, if you are uncomfortable with the terminal, have a reading here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935645

    great for beginners like our selves
    Last edited by imperius69; October 8th, 2008 at 11:01 PM.

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    Re: HowTo: run compize smoothly on Hardy Heron with Radeon Mobility 7500 Graphic Card

    Quote Originally Posted by imperius69 View Post
    hi

    well, the main file to backup is xorg.conf situated at /etc/X11/xorg.conf

    to back it up simply do

    Code:
    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
    to edit it do

    Code:
    sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    if u need to return to the old xorg file in the terminal do the same as before

    Code:
    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    but, remember, you dont need to edit the xorg file right away, first thing is to use the work around to see if compiz works, just dont use a screen size above 1024x768.

    And here it i my xorg.conf



    note Option "AccelMethod", im getting a more stable result with XAA then with EXA. The other options im still experimenting with.

    This page might give you more info about the option:

    http://linux.die.net/man/4/radeon

    also, browse this topic, as great info, and browse the forums and google, a lot of info around

    also, if you are uncomfortable with the terminal, have a reading here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935645

    great for beginners like our selves
    Thanks!!

    Now I feel ready to do my first attempt at 'hacking' linux!! Awesome!!


    Jacob

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