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    Merged Apple Support Threads

    With the advent of the new forum upgrades, it looks as though the admins have felt it necessary to merge the two Apple Hardware Support forums for some reason.

    Personally, I think that PPC and Intel Macs are unique enough in their own respect to justify separate forums. However, since it looks like we will all be together for some time at least, I would ask that the Stickied threads be looked over by the appropriate posters to eliminate statements that don't make sense anymore (like, "if you have an Intel Mac, go here") and make sure that the good information available is properly labeled as applicable to Intel vs PPC Macs (or both, if there are any).

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Or at the very least, I'd like to see a prefix for PPC when starting a new thread.

    Since we both run iMacs of a different breed, how are they going to tell us apart?

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Quote Originally Posted by stream303 View Post
    Or at the very least, I'd like to see a prefix for PPC when starting a new thread.
    Yes I thought that as well. I think there are some things that we can collaborate on, but we still need to keep some of the things that allow us to separate Intel from PPC. I wonder if they can make separate prefixes for different forums?

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    I guess for now we'll have to be very specific in our thread titles. I ran across this very same issue in another forum, and wanted to stress that I was not asking for a PPC forum to be isolationist, but to try and ward off threads that can go absolutely nowhere from well-intentioned users not being aware of the differences.

    Imagine this: "to get rid of your splash screen that seems to be causing problems, just add "nosplash" to your /etc/yaboot.conf file, and then later make the system aware of it with

    Code:
    sudo ybin -v -C /etc/yaboot.conf
    Huh? I don't have a yaboot.conf, nor a ybin. You mean grub right? Should I download ybin or yaboot?

    Dunno, always used yaboot. Let me look. I don't have a grub, what is that?

    Moving on.... I can't seem to get compiz working on my 1998 G3 iMac. Can anyone tell me how?

    Sure, just download and install the proprietary nvidia driver and then ....

    Wait, I that driver doesn't work, what's going on?

    I think you see the problem.

    It is really hard to convince people that PPC folk aren't trying to be isolationist - it is the peculiarities of the hardware that can lead to endless threads if both parties aren't aware of the differences...

    Stickies are a good idea, but can you see it now welcoming every new ppc or intel apple user with:
    "Welcome aboard! Read the sticky. Read it again. Don't even reply to someone unless you read the sticky." Ok, so I'm being dramatic, but you can easily hide "rtfm" behind a sticky if you aren't careful.
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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Quote Originally Posted by stream303 View Post
    It is really hard to convince people that PPC folk aren't trying to be isolationist - it is the peculiarities of the hardware that can lead to endless threads if both parties aren't aware of the differences...
    hehe. and here I thought we might be perceived as isolationists. I think Macs in general are "peculiar" even from their Intel or PPC counterparts. Mactels with the EFI system and such make them a unique case pretty much anything else out there.

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Its fine if they wanna merge them, but did they really have to move all those old threads to the archive & start from scratch??

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    A lot of people seem to have that notion of us wanting to be peculiar, but what could be more linux-mainstream than trying to run Ubuntu on it? Once past the initial struggle of installation, we can be released back into the general population.

    I hope they reconsider, considering that the sparc port has it's own forum, which is also "unofficial".

    At any rate, I'm LOVING my Hardy-RC install and want to thank the volunteer devs and users.
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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Well, I must say, I'm currently Loving my Hardy Mactel setup. But I agree, as a frequent of the intel apple forum, Merging PPC and Intel seems like a bad idea. If anything, we should segregate by kernel, and since intel apples use the standard kernel...

    Just seems as though a lot of confusion is on the horizon. I try to give advice to the best of my ability, as I feel it helps me learn more, and shudder the thought of giving someone bad advice simply because they didn't think or know to state the PPC vs. intel thing.

    Hey, My old setup is pasted here from my profile! what gives?
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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Merging intel mac and ppc is a very dumb idea from an existing or potentual users point of view. If anyone can see a plus in it I'd like to hear it.

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    Re: Merged Apple Support Threads

    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldkelso View Post
    Merging intel mac and ppc is a very dumb idea from an existing or potentual users point of view. If anyone can see a plus in it I'd like to hear it.
    Well, To play devil's Advocate, I'd imagine it's easier on the Ubuntu Forums people. Less Data to handle.

    I'm also guessing (Please, PPC people don't kill me here) that the PPC forum is getting less and less attention the more time goes on, simply due to the fact that Apple is no longer making them.
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