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    Question Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Hi,

    Kubuntu newbie here just migrated from Mepis. I tried the composite thing about six months ago on Mepis and it was horribly slow and buggy. I'm just getting back to a stable system after various twiddlings in Mepis caused me a whole ton of Windows-like-required reboots. I'm afraid to play with anything too cutting edge but after I saw the video I'm not sure I can resist. The one thing I'm afraid of is all of the manual steps in the howto that seem necessary for preventing bugs. I can easily see losing a week or two in time spent adjusting things. My question is what's the easiest way to get started for someone like me running KDE-3.5 on Breezy with the latest NVidia driver? Is is just a matter of putting the lines in my xorg.conf? Can I then play with the composite settings in KControl? Would I have to do the manual legwork required to keep Firefox healthy? I haven't yet installed it but I want to start using superkaramba too as I port my stuff from my Mepis partition. I heard the composite stuff doesn't work well with super-karamba. Is this still true as of current? Will the NVidia driver update help that as well? I'm just nervous to try bleeding edge stuff.

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    I get "no composite extension" when I try to run xcompmgr. I have an nvidia 5200 with the official drivers from breezy.

    This is my xorg.conf:

    Code:
    (skipped fonts stuff)
    Section "Module"
    	Load	"bitmap"
    	Load	"dbe"
    	Load	"ddc"
    	Load	"dri"
    	Load	"extmod"
    	Load	"freetype"
    	Load	"glx"
    	Load	"int10"
    	Load	"record"
    	Load	"type1"
    	Load	"vbe"
    	Load	"v4l"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Driver		"keyboard"
    	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
    	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
    	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
    	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
    	Driver		"mouse"
    	Option		"CorePointer"
    	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
    	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
    	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
    	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
    	Driver		"nvidia"
    	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
    	Option		"RenderAccel" "true"
    	Option		"AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Extensions"
    	Option		"Composite" "Enable"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
    	Option		"DPMS"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Default Screen"
    	Device		"NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
    	Monitor		"SyncMaster"
    	DefaultDepth	24
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		1
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		4
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		8
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		15
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		16
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		24
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
    	Screen		"Default Screen"
    	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
    	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
    EndSection
    
    Section "DRI"
    	Mode	0666
    EndSection
    Can any one see whats causing this?

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Heretic09, perhaps try to move Section Extensions above Section Device? That's all I can think of.

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Heretic09, perhaps try to move Section Extensions above Section Device? That's all I can think of.
    Tried that, same issue.

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic09
    I get "no composite extension" when I try to run xcompmgr. I have an nvidia 5200 with the official drivers from breezy.

    This is my xorg.conf:

    Code:
    (skipped fonts stuff)
    Section "Module"
    	Load	"bitmap"
    	Load	"dbe"
    	Load	"ddc"
    	Load	"dri"
    	Load	"extmod"
    	Load	"freetype"
    	Load	"glx"
    	Load	"int10"
    	Load	"record"
    	Load	"type1"
    	Load	"vbe"
    	Load	"v4l"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Driver		"keyboard"
    	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
    	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
    	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
    	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
    	Driver		"mouse"
    	Option		"CorePointer"
    	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
    	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
    	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
    	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
    	Driver		"nvidia"
    	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
    	Option		"RenderAccel" "true"
    	Option		"AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Extensions"
    	Option		"Composite" "Enable"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"SyncMaster"
    	Option		"DPMS"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Default Screen"
    	Device		"NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
    	Monitor		"SyncMaster"
    	DefaultDepth	24
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		1
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		4
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		8
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		15
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		16
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		24
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
    	Screen		"Default Screen"
    	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
    	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
    EndSection
    
    Section "DRI"
    	Mode	0666
    EndSection
    Can any one see whats causing this?
    My best advice would be to move the composite part to the end- after the dri part.
    Those folks who try to impose analog rules on digital content will find themselves on the wrong side of the tidal wave.
    - Mark Shuttleworth

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff76
    Hi,

    Kubuntu newbie here just migrated from Mepis. I tried the composite thing about six months ago on Mepis and it was horribly slow and buggy. I'm just getting back to a stable system after various twiddlings in Mepis caused me a whole ton of Windows-like-required reboots. I'm afraid to play with anything too cutting edge but after I saw the video I'm not sure I can resist. The one thing I'm afraid of is all of the manual steps in the howto that seem necessary for preventing bugs. I can easily see losing a week or two in time spent adjusting things. My question is what's the easiest way to get started for someone like me running KDE-3.5 on Breezy with the latest NVidia driver? Is is just a matter of putting the lines in my xorg.conf?
    Install new Nvidia drivers. Fix up Xorg.conf. My advice section is mostly for Xcompmgr. Just know that it might crash on you one day....and you will be fine.

    Can I then play with the composite settings in KControl? Would I have to do the manual legwork required to keep Firefox healthy? I haven't yet installed it but I want to start using superkaramba too as I port my stuff from my Mepis partition. I heard the composite stuff doesn't work well with super-karamba. Is this still true as of current? Will the NVidia driver update help that as well? I'm just nervous to try bleeding edge stuff.
    If you are scared, they maybe stay away. We are on the knife edge here. I say its stable, but thats my definition of stable. As in "unless I do one of the things I know will crash it, it only crashes once a week on its own."

    The problem with superkaramba and gdesklets is that they have drop shadows. I have no solution to this problem.

    Good luck.
    Those folks who try to impose analog rules on digital content will find themselves on the wrong side of the tidal wave.
    - Mark Shuttleworth

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    I'm a dumbass. I was doing it through an NX session with the moronic assumption that it should work. Note to self xcompmgr and/or transset does not work through freenx.

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Does any one know how to apply transparancy just to one app? eg Yakuake or Konsole? As in when the app starts up its automatically semi transparent where as in transset you would have to manually select the app you want to be transparent every time.
    Last edited by Heretic09; December 27th, 2005 at 11:46 PM.

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    Arrow Re: KDE 3.5 & Rendering performance?

    I just upgraded to KDE 3.5 and i have noticed improved performance.

    In the rendering of the effects, but i still feel that it doesn't use it or provides the smoothness like i get in OSX.

    Is it due to fact that its still "Composite manager" is still a work in progress.

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    Re: The Composite Manager Guide: How to Get Vista-ish Effects in (K)(X)Ubuntu.

    Does anyone know of any way to make KDE panel uses REAL transparency (not the fake one you get thru configuring panel)? Seems like the KDE built-in composite manager only affect apps.

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