Putting an end to wasted display area, gnome 3.0 style.

[ethana2]

I've discovered that people don't have patience for talk when it comes to new concepts involving a gui... And I've finally finished a mockup.(which I'm told is of a quality on par with screenshots for quality)

This mockup is an illustration of one configuration that will be made possible with the admittedly massive changes that I propose here:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521131

The screenshot is attached.

[smartboyathome]

That 1) looks messy imo, and 2) isn't possible unless the window manager and toolkits get combined (not attempted yet on Linux, as far as I know).

[ethana2]

It needs to be attempted.

"Messy" is what it is now. Stuff is all over the place, creating visual noise, yet being all spread out.

Perhaps you'd like to see that shot with only one tab open and thus no tab bar?

[Lord Illidan]

I actually like some big buttons and some padding. Ok, perhaps Gnome could do with some slimming down, but not to that extreme, imho!

[ethana2]

Applications that exist now are pretty customizable, generally speaking. You can show or hide pretty much any element in the window.

....Do you know how much redundant code supporting all of that in every app is? This can get rid of all of it.

What I've shown you is only one of very many possibilities. Like mac. You want something that looks like OSX? No problem at all.

I like /my/ desktop compact. You could do anything you please.

[leo_rockway]

2) isn't possible unless the window manager and toolkits get combined (not attempted yet on Linux, as far as I know).

I believe what he wants is a change in the way window managers behave so you'd be able to adjust things this way if that's what you wanted.

This doesn't necessarily need to be Ubuntu's / Gnome's default view, but rather a new option.

[ethana2]

Anything that could be shown could be hidden.

Notice the status bar applet is not present, as I find it useless in firefox.
If you never use menu bars, then you can just not have that displayed either.

If you want window panels to be smaller than desktop panels, you're free to do that; you can make them as big or as small as you wish.

If you use the keyboard for everything, you don't even have to show window controls.

[PrimoTurbo]

So if you resize the window how are you supposed to drag it around if you can't grab on to the title bar?

[ethana2]

A 4 pixel thick grab bar containing nothing.

The title applet in the panel or wherever could also, when you click and hold on it, transfer all motion from your mouse into the in-focus window instead of the cursor.

[ethana2]

If you'd like me to render any scenarios with more mockups, just ask me. Having done what I have so far, more in the future should be easier.

--Sorry, 4 pixels for a grab bar is a bit anemic. You'd want twice that at least.