When close to achieving you quit! If you don't try you failed. Real Winners are not afraid of losing.
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and video http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tNpt5RZYI

This is just what I saw of jdong. What came after this was a very lengthy discussion on IRC that amounted to this...
The move to upstart is a very hard one and involves some very tricky stuff. Apparently upstart is also the reason that plymouth exists. I guess there's a lot of magic involved in upstart now which pretty much means things are a whole lot more complicated than they were.
I'm interested in working on moving things from sysv to upstart but from the sounds of it, this is a VERY tricky task and may not be completed in time for Maverick.
I guess this is more random now. I just wanted to mention what we talked about in brevity.
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