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    Re: Tutorials on Forum Basics

    Quote Originally Posted by noynac View Post
    I don't have a tutorial but hoped it would be OK to raise an issue. Forum members requesting help will occasionally post screenful after screenful of computer output. The following is one example:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=812879

    Is this acceptable or should computer output such as this be put in a text file and attached. Or is there some other way to handle this? Thanks!
    It should be put in [code]put code here[/code] tags.

    For example, what you linked to should be
    Code:
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    Initializing. Please wait...
    Ubuntu
    
    8.04
    
    scheduler is running
    
    1.3.7
    
    Linux HumbleServant 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| SYSTEM INFO |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Basic system information:
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Linux HumbleServant 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Distribution:
    hp-check[6129]: info: :ubuntu 8.04
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    HPOJ running?
    hp-check[6129]: info: :No, HPOJ is not running (OK).
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking Python version...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, version 2.5.2 installed
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking PyQt version...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, version 3.17 installed.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking SIP version...
    error: SIP not installed or version not found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for CUPS...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Status: scheduler is running
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Version: 1.3.7
    hp-check[6129]: info: :error_log is set to level: warn
    note: For troubleshooting printing issues, it is best to have the CUPS 'LogLevel'
    note: set to 'debug'. To set the LogLevel to debug, edit the file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf (as root),
    note: and change the line near the top of the file that begins with 'LogLevel' to read:
    note: LogLevel debug
    note: Save the file and then restart CUPS (see your OS/distro docs on how to restart CUPS).
    note: Now, when you print, helpful debug information will be saved to the file:
    note: /var/log/cups/error_log
    note: You can monitor this file by running this command in a console/shell:
    note: tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dbus/python-dbus...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :dbus daemon is running.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :python-dbus version: 0.82.4
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :------------------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| COMPILE AND RUNTIME DEPENDENCIES |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :------------------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    note: To check for compile-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -c parameter (ie, hp-check -c).
    note: To check for run-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -r parameter (ie, hp-check -r).
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: cups - Common Unix Printing System...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: cups-ddk - CUPS driver development kit...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: cups-devel- Common Unix Printing System development files...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: dbus - Message bus system...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: GhostScript - PostScript and PDF language interpreter and previewer...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libjpeg - JPEG library...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library development files...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libpthread - POSIX threads library...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libtool - Library building support services...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: libusb - USB library...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of programs...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: PIL - Python Imaging Library (required for commandline scanning with hp-scan)...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: ppdev - Parallel port support kernel module....
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: PyQt - Qt interface for Python...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: python-ctypes - A foreign function library for Python...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: python-dbus - Python bindings for dbus...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: python-devel - Python development files...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: Python 2.3 or greater - Required for fax functionality...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: Python 2.2 or greater - Python programming language...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: Reportlab - PDF library for Python...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library development files...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: scanimage - Shell scanning program...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for dependency: xsane - Graphical scanner frontend for SANE...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :----------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| HPLIP INSTALLATION |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :----------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Currently installed HPLIP version...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :HPLIP 2.8.5 currently installed in '/usr/share/hplip'.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Current contents of '/etc/hp/hplip.conf' file:
    hp-check[6129]: info: :# hplip.conf. Generated from hplip.conf.in by configure.
    
    [hpssd]
    # Note: hpssd does not support dynamic ports
    # Port 2207 is the IANA assigned port for hpssd
    port=2207
    
    [hplip]
    version=2.8.5
    
    [dirs]
    home=/usr/share/hplip
    run=/var/run
    ppd=/usr/share/ppd/hpijs/HP
    ppdbase=/usr/share/ppd/hpijs
    doc=/usr/share/doc/hplip-2.8.5
    icon=/usr/share/applications
    cupsbackend=/usr/lib/cups/backend
    cupsfilter=/usr/lib/cups/filter
    drv=/usr/share/cups/drv/hp/
    
    # Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed.
    [configure]
    network-build=yes
    pp-build=no
    gui-build=yes
    scanner-build=yes
    fax-build=yes
    dbus-build=yes
    cups11-build=no
    doc-build=yes
    shadow-build=no
    foomatic-drv-install=yes
    foomatic-ppd-install=no
    foomatic-rip-hplip-install=yes
    internal-tag=2.8.5.23
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :--------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| DISCOVERED USB DEVICES |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :--------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| INSTALLED CUPS PRINTER QUEUES |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :640_Series
    hp-check[6129]: info: :----------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Unknown
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: No, not using the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: usb://Lexmark%20/640%20Series
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/640_Series.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: Generic text-only printer
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer 640_Series is idle. enabled since Thu 29 May 2008 08:02:13 PM MYT
    
    warning: Printer is not HPLIP installed. Printers must use the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend to function in HPLIP.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Deskjet_D1300_series
    hp-check[6129]: info: :--------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Printer
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: Yes, using the hp: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: hp:/usb/Deskjet_D1300_series?serial=CN73T1J04304ND
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/Deskjet_D1300_series.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: HP DeskJet D1300 Foomatic/hpijs, hpijs 2.8.2
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer Deskjet_D1300_series is idle. enabled since Thu 29 May 2008 08:02:14 PM MYT
    
    warning: Unable to connect to dbus. Is hp-systray running?
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Communication status: Good
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :HP_LaserJet_P1006
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-----------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Printer
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: Yes, using the hp: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AB08LZP
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/HP_LaserJet_P1006.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: HP LaserJet P1006 Foomatic/foo2xqx (recommended)
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer HP_LaserJet_P1006 is idle. enabled since Fri 30 May 2008 06:33:29 PM MYT
    
    warning: Unable to connect to dbus. Is hp-systray running?
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Required plug-in status: Installed
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Communication status: Good
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :HP_LaserJet_P1006_1
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Printer
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: Yes, using the hp: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AB08LZP
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/HP_LaserJet_P1006_1.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: HP LaserJet P1006 Foomatic/hpijs-ZJS (recommended)
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer HP_LaserJet_P1006_1 is idle. enabled since Fri 30 May 2008 06:34:48 PM MYT
    
    warning: Unable to connect to dbus. Is hp-systray running?
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Required plug-in status: Installed
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Communication status: Good
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :HP_LaserJet_P1006_2
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Printer
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: Yes, using the hp: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AB08LZP
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/HP_LaserJet_P1006_2.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: HP LaserJet P1006 Foomatic/hpijs-ZJS (recommended)
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer HP_LaserJet_P1006_2 is idle. enabled since Fri 30 May 2008 06:58:21 PM MYT
    
    warning: Unable to connect to dbus. Is hp-systray running?
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Required plug-in status: Installed
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Communication status: Good
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PDF
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Type: Unknown
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Installed in HPLIP?: No, not using the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Device URI: cups-pdf:/
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/PDF.ppd
    hp-check[6129]: info: :PPD Description: Generic PDF file generator
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Printer status: printer PDF is idle. enabled since Wed 23 Apr 2008 01:54:42 AM MYT
    
    warning: Printer is not HPLIP installed. Printers must use the hp: or hpfax: CUPS backend to function in HPLIP.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :----------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| SANE CONFIGURATION |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :----------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf'...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found. SANE backend 'hpaio' is properly set up.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking output of 'scanimage -L'...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    
    No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
    
    check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
    
    sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
    
    which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| PYTHON EXTENSIONS |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :---------------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking 'cupsext' CUPS extension...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking 'pcardext' Photocard extension...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking 'hpmudext' I/O extension...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking 'scanext' SANE scanning extension...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :OK, found.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-----------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| USB I/O SETUP |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-----------------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Checking for permissions of USB attached printers...
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    HP Device 0x7804 at 006:002:
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Device URI: hp:/usb/Deskjet_D1300_series?serial=CN73T1J04304ND
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Device node: /dev/bus/usb/006/002
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Mode: 0666
    hp-check[6129]: info: :getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
    
    # file: dev/bus/usb/006/002
    
    # owner: root
    
    # group: lp
    
    user::rw-
    
    user:isaiah:rw-
    
    group::rw-
    
    mask::rw-
    
    other::rw-
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    HP Device 0x3e17 at 003:003:
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Device URI: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_P1006?serial=AB08LZP
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Device node: /dev/bus/usb/003/003
    hp-check[6129]: info: : Mode: 0666
    hp-check[6129]: info: :getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
    
    # file: dev/bus/usb/003/003
    
    # owner: root
    
    # group: lp
    
    user::rw-
    
    user:isaiah:rw-
    
    group::rw-
    
    mask::rw-
    
    other::rw-
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-----------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :| SUMMARY |
    hp-check[6129]: info: :-----------
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    error: 3 errors and/or warnings.
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Please refer to the installation instructions at:
    hp-check[6129]: info: :http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html
    
    hp-check[6129]: info: :
    hp-check[6129]: info: :Done.

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    Archaeology and Necromancing

    Sometimes the forum staff will close threads that do not explicitly violate the Code of Conduct.

    Quote Originally Posted by UF CoC
    You agree that the web-master, administrators and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any post, topic or thread at any time they see fit following the guidelines outlined below.
    See this decision: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5060240

    It is discouraged that anyone post on old and inactive threads. This is for several reasons:
    • The thread may be outdated.
    • The posters who originally posted may not be active on the forums or have forgotten about the thread.
    • And most importantly, you will most likely get better responses on your own thread in the new support area.


    Here is how to make a new thread: How to make a thread on the forum.

    Also, some old threads are now Recurring Discussions, see Recurring Discussions criteria. Old threads could have been dealing with new issues at the time, but have since been deemed old news. Posting on such old inactive threads can be resolved by closing the thread because there are active threads in Recurring Discussions instead of moving them.

    Note, not all posts on old threads are considered archaeology. If a thread has been inactive, and the poster is on topic, it is probably not a case. If you see random threads that have been inactive for over a year, then it is likely a necromance.

    Please only report only threads that are cases of necromancing/archaeology
    Last edited by LaRoza; July 30th, 2008 at 10:50 PM.

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    Re: Archaeology and Necromancing

    Quote Originally Posted by LaRoza View Post
    ...Note, not all posts on old threads are considered archaeology. If a thread has been inactive, and the poster is on topic, it is probably not a case. If you see random threads that have been inactive for over a year, then it is likely a necromance.

    Please only report only threads that are cases of necromancing/archaeology
    I read the above and reviewed another posting on what constitutes a necromance, and I'm still not clear what is and isn't. I know it's not important for me to know the difference, but I wondered if the following thread would qualify or not:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ighlight=scrot

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    Re: Archaeology and Necromancing

    Quote Originally Posted by noynac View Post
    I wondered if the following thread would qualify or not:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ighlight=scrot
    Yes.
    I am aware of all internet traditions. | Getting the best help | Text formatting codes | My last.fm profile
    Should I PM support questions? NO!

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    Re: Archaeology and Necromancing

    Quote Originally Posted by noynac View Post
    I read the above and reviewed another posting on what constitutes a necromance, and I'm still not clear what is and isn't. I know it's not important for me to know the difference, but I wondered if the following thread would qualify or not:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ighlight=scrot
    Yes it would.

    Generally, when the thread has been dormant for years, bring it back is a case of archaeology.

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    Re: Archaeology and Necromancing

    Quote Originally Posted by LaRoza View Post
    Generally, when the thread has been dormant for years, bring it back is a case of archaeology.
    Just curious, is there not an option in this forum software that allow auto-locking a thread if it has been dormant for X amount of time? Locking old threads would force users to post something new (or at least reply to something current).

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    Re: Archaeology and Necromancing

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberdork33 View Post
    Just curious, is there not an option in this forum software that allow auto-locking a thread if it has been dormant for X amount of time? Locking old threads would force users to post something new (or at least reply to something current).
    Such an option is not used. There are valid reasons for long living threads.

    There was a discussion on such a scheme, but necromancing is rather rare (also, the forum is technically young, as is Ubuntu, so I doubt it was considered in the beginning) and it was found too restrictive.

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    Re: Tutorials on Forum Basics

    How did sub2007 put a picture in the body of his post?
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=16

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    Re: Tutorials on Forum Basics

    Quote Originally Posted by unutbu View Post
    How did sub2007 put a picture in the body of his post?
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