Problems with Gutsy on HP laptops.

[old_salt]

If you have an HP Laptop - especially an HP 6000 or 9000 series laptop, steer clear of Gutsy 7.10 release.

Too many hardware issues, lack of available apps to satisfy dependencies and less than half the available programs as found under Feisty 7.04 release.

Not sure what happened here but I can't even obtain the necessary requirements to even compile from source. Hardware is not supported and despite the efforts of many in submitting to the hardware database for developers to support this platform, it appears everything went to the "bit bucket".

About the ONLY thing they did right was provide the Broadcom wireless nic firmware via the restricted drivers option and that was it. Nothing else works. You can't even manually fix the problems because the tools to do so are not available.

PLEASE PLEASE stick with Feisty or whatever distro you may have used before in efforts to send the message to the developers that they missed the boat BIG TIME on this release.

As a 20 yr professional, I cant recall a release take such a large step backwards. I'm beginning to wonder if this release is for Dell only.

[EXCiD3]

I too am extremely disappointed in Gutsy. As a user of the Hp dv9000t and author of several HP related threads/tutorials I am VERY disappointed in Gutsy's support. Yes it does provide support for the Broadcom chipset, however it lacks functionality that we could attain in Feisty fairly easily. I strongly feel that users should continue with Feisty until Gutsy has had time to mature and develop into a better OS than Feisty was. The few features that Gutsy has implemented in hopes of being useful are nothing to compensate the usability of your hardware you use compatibility of.

As an HP user and seeing how many other students us HP laptops, I feel that this topic should be of great concern to the community/developers. Well over half of the fellow students I have in my classes use HP laptops. If there are that many HP users in such a small area, think of the amount of Ubuntu HP users that are going to be disappointed with Ubuntu. Fedora works great with HP laptops and if users are disappointed with Ubuntu, they are just going to turn to OpenSUSE, Fedora, or another distrobution. I would hate to see users leave the community in search of a more capable linux distro.

If you are an HP user, I strongly recommend using Feisty for the time being. There is plenty of support for Feisty and lots of information/tutorials on problems you may encounter, for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059

Please post your thoughts on this, as I feel it is a very important topic and should be corrected as soon as possible.

[scorp123]

Originally Posted by EXCiD3 I too am extremely disappointed in Gutsy .... If you are an HP user, I strongly recommend using Feisty for the time being.

Same here! Feisty works wonderful on my hp Pavilion dv2108ea laptop. Everything that I care about works superb. Standby, hibernate, resume, WiFi, Beryl, Compiz-Fusion, 3D acceleration, HP remote control, multimedia buttons .... Everything works on Feisty. On Gutsy? Nope. Many annoying bugs. Sorry to say so but "Gutsy" really feels like a step backwards. Above all things that annoy me: Why in the world was the framebuffer disabled?? Now when I use parameters such as "vga=791" in my 'menu.lst' my tty1 - tty6 remain black and cannot be used. And none of the workarounds I found so far seem to work.

Thank you but no thank you: I'd too recommend to stay on Feisty for now.

[cowkiller]

I use a HP dv2570 and also feel a bit disappointed with Gutsy. All the good vibrations I had during the installation process got vanished when I tried to configure my video settings with the new interface. The monitor is not even recognized and the graphic drivers doesn't work properly, not even the Nvidia restricted drivers. No matter what I do, I have constant resolution and refresh rate issues. So I'll consider going back to Feisty and hang on for a better HP support on Gutsy, hopefully sooner than later.... or keep trying to solve it by myself if I've got time.
Anyway, good luck to all HP users that try Gutsy. Always make a backup first ^^

[elj4176]

thanks for the info. I'll stick w/7.04 on my hp for now. I already tried to upgrade a dell desktop and have some problems with it - think i have it figured out now tho.

[conanjb]

Yikes! I was just about ready to click the upgrade button, and then I thought i'd better double check the forum for any issues others may be having. I have an older HP Pavilion zd7280 that works great on 7.04. Does anyone think I'd run into the same issues as the HP users with dv model laptops?

Glad I saw this post.

jb

[Rapidsnow]

Grr I wish I would have seen this before I upgraded. I am having fewer problems than you guys with a dv6000 but I have no sound. My nvidia drivers, compiz, multimedia buttons, and pretty much everything is working fine, but for some reason sound isn't. I had no problem when installing Feisty with anything except the broadcom chipset (which has now crapped out in my motherboard.) Well I will try to fix this, too late (i.e. lazy) to go back almost.

[gcrussell1]

I'm running an HP zx5000 laptop - older generation (I think) than the DV line. Anyone know if the zx series machines work well with gutsy? I'm planning on dual-booting XP and Ubuntu to learn Linux, since I've never used Linux before, but I don't want my first experience to be a bad one.

Any suggestions? Am I safe with 7.10, or should I try out 7.04 to start out?

[EXCiD3]

gcrussell1 I think you would be safer off using Feisty and getting the drivers installed for it. Gutsy may prevent some of your hardware from being usable. If you want to try it, be my guest, but I have had a rediculous amount of problems.

Here is a link to my tutorial that might help you on installing Feisty and its drivers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059

[Oatworm]

Just upgraded to Gusty Gibbon from Feisty on my Compaq V6000Z, and I'm less than impressed. Things that I have run into thus far:

1. The newest kernel version (2.6.22-14) won't boot. I have to use Grub and boot off of the original 2.6.20-16 kernel.
2. Gnome crashes whenever my screensaver turns on and whenever I access certain parts of my NVIDIA control panel. It wasn't doing this under Feisty. I suspect it's because the video drivers are compiled against the new kernel - I can't upgrade the drivers on the "old" kernel since I don't have access to the old header files anymore.

Past that, everything else works, though that's probably because of the old kernel more than anything. I was excited about Gutsy, hoping to actually have real multi-monitor support. Plus, after having a kernel update in Feisty knock ACPI out on me and render my battery meter useless, I was hoping that Gutsy would have better security and application upgrades that wouldn't nuke my laptop. Suffice it to say, I'm not finding this encouraging.