I give up

[armandh]

I have not had any install trouble once the hardware was in order.
ubuntu is not forgiving of hardware problems.
that mem test in in the choices for a reason.

[daveshields]

Songster,

Sorry that Ubuntu didn't work for you. Thanks for taking the time to write this post. It is appreciated, and I'm confident that the Ubuntu community will, as you suggest, "sort it out."

Your main concerns seem to be install problems and updates.

As for install problems, I' ve recently become quite interested in Ubuntu, in part because while sorting through some hardware problems and using Google as my oracle I was frequently sent to sites such as this that had a focus on Ubuntu. I have come to appreciate that Ubuntu is well on the way to building the largest, most effective, Linux community I have yet seen, and I've been involved in Linux for close to a decade (I'm a co-author of Jikes, one of the packages that is included in Ubuntu).

As for the update problems, whilst sorting through my hardware issues during the past few weeks and also while building two computers so I could learn more about Ubuntu (I want to study some networking issues hands-on) I have installed Suse 9.3, Suse 10.1 and OpenSuse 10.2, as well as *all* the flavors of Unbuntu currently available from the "Downloads" section in a variety of scenarios, usually dual-but but on occasion single boot.

Each and every time after *every* successful Ubuntu install I have soon seen a little icon pop up telling me that updates are available, and in *every* case (and I am talking tens of cases here) the updates have worked. I'm interested how yours failed. Can you provide details?

[tashmooclam]

My first experience also was frustrating, so I can see how it would be for someone else.
I have fun now so it was worth the trouble. But, nobody else I know would have gone through this hassle. They would either stick with crummy windows or they have the money to buy macs.

[aysiu]

But, nobody else I know would have gone through this hassle. They would either stick with crummy windows or they have the money to buy macs.

And many of us don't go through this trouble.

If I'd experienced that much trouble, I would have given up as well. I, along with a lot of other Ubuntu users, had everything run pretty smoothly.

[ukripper]

Ubuntu, it looks bad and it firstly won't install. After messing around for hours i get the thing to install through a crappy text based installer. Once i get it working Ubuntu wants me to update my system - after updating i get a big red error output saying that the updates have failed - something to do with openoffice now my repo's don't work.

THIS OS IS BUILT ON A KNIFE edge, its not ready for the user is updates built by the OS devs do not work when prompted. Its not good - a very very poor way to introduce newbie into linux - luckly i got sabayon which works.

I hope you guys sort out the distro because the updates you supply are built to destroy your own distro. Good work.

Back to windows and sabayon. - Vista is 100 times easier, feature rich than ubuntu and its updates don't break it to a state which the distro is unusable. I want to say alot more about the great work that has gone into the distro but i won't.

This is first I have never noticed this kind of error before. I feel sorry it didn't workout for you. But probably you can give another release a go. try gutsy or edgy if feisty ain't working out for you.

[darksong]

Did you bother changing how it looks?

Seems to be installing for a lot of people.

That's funny. Last time I installed XP it was also a crappy text-based installer. And I'm still looking for that mystical live Windows CD that installs the entire system for you. Maybe someone can help me find it.

I'll skip the rest of your post. You're angry, you're trolling, and that's more than enough.

Yes i did try changing the looks - only yes thats right compiz fusion breaks and will not display a cube after editing config files, refuses to start up when i get the command for it to. This breaks my entire mac/osx look i spent a good day configuring.

Windows XP uses text based for what? Partitioning - the partitioner that MS bundles with the XP cd is much easier and functional than ubuntu's text based one.

Angry - yes that ubuntu will one second install perfectly on a 10 year old pieice of crap and i can get everything set up but on something which is a month old it doesn't work well.

Hopefully gusty will work, or dapper.

[darksong]

Songster,

Sorry that Ubuntu didn't work for you. Thanks for taking the time to write this post. It is appreciated, and I'm confident that the Ubuntu community will, as you suggest, "sort it out."

Your main concerns seem to be install problems and updates.

As for install problems, I' ve recently become quite interested in Ubuntu, in part because while sorting through some hardware problems and using Google as my oracle I was frequently sent to sites such as this that had a focus on Ubuntu. I have come to appreciate that Ubuntu is well on the way to building the largest, most effective, Linux community I have yet seen, and I've been involved in Linux for close to a decade (I'm a co-author of Jikes, one of the packages that is included in Ubuntu).

As for the update problems, whilst sorting through my hardware issues during the past few weeks and also while building two computers so I could learn more about Ubuntu (I want to study some networking issues hands-on) I have installed Suse 9.3, Suse 10.1 and OpenSuse 10.2, as well as *all* the flavors of Unbuntu currently available from the "Downloads" section in a variety of scenarios, usually dual-but but on occasion single boot.

Each and every time after *every* successful Ubuntu install I have soon seen a little icon pop up telling me that updates are available, and in *every* case (and I am talking tens of cases here) the updates have worked. I'm interested how yours failed. Can you provide details?

Dependices (spelling) issues on every openoffice part - this is from a clean install.

[em007a]

Yes i did try changing the looks - only yes thats right compiz fusion breaks and will not display a cube after editing config files, refuses to start up when i get the command for it to. This breaks my entire mac/osx look i spent a good day configuring.

Compiz-fuzion is BETA software. There are many warnings about it's potential pitfalls when installing it. It's hardly fair to blame the OS for a third party application.

Get Ubuntu running and customize the looks to your taste. Backup your files and settings and only then should you attempt to install beta software that can and will break your operating system, especially when updates are available.

[leathco]

Actually I had trouble installing too. However, a tiny sliver of work let me find the problem, than the fix was simply to hit F6 at boot menu and type in a command.

See, that's the amazing thing about the Linux community. Help is out there, and everyone is willing to try and help everyone else. Try finding that in Windows.

No, Linux will never be an OS for the masses. For those who are willing to learn a new OS, those willing to press their way through problems, it's a good OS for us. And we are rewarded for our patience with reliability, stability, and ease of mind against lockups, slow systems, viruses, and even having outdated hardware, as this OS will run on most anything.

[ukripper]

Actually I had trouble installing too. However, a tiny sliver of work let me find the problem, than the fix was simply to hit F6 at boot menu and type in a command.

See, that's the amazing thing about the Linux community. Help is out there, and everyone is willing to try and help everyone else. Try finding that in Windows.

No, Linux will never be an OS for the masses. For those who are willing to learn a new OS, those willing to press their way through problems, it's a good OS for us. And we are rewarded for our patience with reliability, stability, and ease of mind against lockups, slow systems, viruses, and even having outdated hardware, as this OS will run on most anything.

Good comments!