XServer 1.4 delayed to Gutsy+1?

[tehkain]

Not, this only affects input hotplugging, xrandr 1.2 (already included) does output, i.e. monitor, hotplugging.

Thanks!

[bash]

Ah this already sounds a lot better. Was really kinda worried when I read that everything was put on hold.

So as far as I can now understand from the notes of the devel meeting is that Bulletproof-X and the GUI xorg.conf configurator are implemented, but that no decision has been made yet if X.org 7.3 is included completly, partially or not at all.

[sumguy231]

Too bad Kubuntu won't get bulletproof-x anyway, though.

[Miguel]

Too bad Kubuntu won't get bulletproof-x anyway, though.

Why? X11 is waaay lower level than any desktop environment. I'm running gutsy right now and I can tell you that if I delete it and reboot my system I will get both 3D accel (free r300 driver) and 1280x800 resolution. The latter is evident as soon as GDM launches. I fail to see where would KDE fail. I repeat: this is without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in my system.

It's true though that displayconfig-gtk might not make kubuntu, due to, err, the gtk dependency. I'd expect a qt version soon (although gutsy +1 is the most likely candidate).

[sumguy231]

Why? X11 is waaay lower level than any desktop environment.

The developers were going to have it boot into a failsafe X session and load displayconfig-gtk (this is still the plan for Ubuntu as far as I know) but a technical limitation in KDM prevents that. But you're right, it will still do the above thing and work ok with a missing or damaged xorg.conf. But that's only part of bulletproof-x, I believe.

[dasunst3r]

I've been hearing reports of people without xorg.conf files. Are you folks kidding? How well is it working with the proprietary nVidia or ATi drivers?

[Miguel]

I've been hearing reports of people without xorg.conf files. Are you folks kidding? How well is it working with the proprietary nVidia or ATi drivers?

I haven't tested it with the proprietary ATi driver. In any case, the worst that would happen is that (for my card) the radeon driver would load without 3D acceleration (if you install fglrx, you also install a library (libGL.so) incompatible with the open source drivers' acceleration.

[Alex Fernandez]

We better see it backported

[Seisen]

I guess I would rather have it stable then end up making a gigantic mess, imagine what that would do for Ubuntu reputation.

[Alex Fernandez]

I guess I would rather have it stable then end up making a gigantic mess, imagine what that would do for Ubuntu reputation.

They can always have both 1.3 and 1.4, just like they can have kde3 and kde4 .. and let us, the user decide