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    HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    A quick summary on how to fix the most common dns issues when using dhcp behind an inexpensive router and why editing /etc/resolv.conf manually doesn't work for very long:

    When manually adding a nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf, it is only a temporary solution since dhclient (actually dhclient-script) overwrites this file on re-lease or reboot. This only happens when using dhcp. Thus manually editing resolv.conf might only be useful during a "live-cd" session or when you are running a static ip.

    Various tricks like changing the permissions of resolv.conf eventually fail because dhclient runs as root and overwrites it. Other tricks like making the file immutable (using chattr) are also not recommended.

    Of course one could always run static where nothing overwrites resolv.conf, but the following is what I recommend for the anyone behind an inexpensive router running dhcp when they only see their router's dns server (actually a dns forwarder masquerading as a dns server in many cases) in resolv.conf. Typically this is a private-ip address such as 172.16.0.254 etc.

    Option 1: place your isp's primary and backup dns server addresses in the router setup page.

    Option 2: Uncomment and edit (as root, ie sudo nano) the PREPEND line of /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and place your isp's dns nameserver(s) there. In the case of multiple nameservers, be sure to separate them with a comma, and end the line with a semicolon;

    Option 3: Edit (as root) dhclient-script and remove all the commands in the mk_resolv.conf{} function so your edited resolv.conf won't be overwritten. Not recommended as option 1 or 2 usually suffices and many of us (myself included) can mess up the edit.

    After applying one of these fixes, you should bring your interface down and up again, or maybe the easiest is to just reboot.

    example:
    Code:
    sudo ifdown eth0
    sudo ifup eth0
    IPV6 - even after all this, sometimes our inexpensive hardware may have trouble with IPV6. Normally I don't recommend disabling it, but if you feel you should, you can disable it globally by creating a file titled "bad_list" in /etc/modprobe.d directory. bad_list can contain just this line:

    alias net-pf-10 off

    UPDATE: the above technique used to work, but now thanks to dbott67, the following is what works to disable ipv6 on my system:

    Code:
    sudo -s
    echo "blacklist ipv6" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6
    exit
    You can test to see if IPV6 has been disabled by running

    Code:
    ip a | grep inet6
    If there is no output from this command, (after you have cycled your interface, or rebooted) you are good to go. Lately I just run ifconfig and see if any inet6 addresses show up on my interface after rebooting. Not elegant I know...

    You can also disable IPV6 in Firefox by entering

    about:config

    in the url bar. Once the configurations are found, in the filter bar, search for IPV6. Once found, doubleclick the search result to change the boolean value from false to true. Restart Firefox.

    Tip: When you purchase a router, make sure to check the router configuration to be sure it doesn't have the same ip address as your modem.

    Hope this helps...
    Last edited by stream303; December 27th, 2006 at 08:59 AM. Reason: highlighting - tip addition.
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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    I have found that some routers and some WiFi Hot spots when connecting leave
    the Ubuntu routing table empty. Looking at the end of the dmesg data one sees
    that no IPV6 routes are defined. This seems strange since an IP address was assigned
    to my connection. This seems to verify that the dhcp code is overwriting the route
    data or is never writing the route data. Either way it is messed up!

    The way I fixed the problem was to do the following:

    Code:
    sudo route add default gw dev wlan0
    This tells the system to send the internet commands through the WiFi device, in my case 'wanl0'.
    I added the above command to a bash script that I use to connect to the Internet. I saw in one
    of the other threads that 'wifi-radar' worked. I'll gave it a try.

    YumaJim
    Last edited by YumaJim; December 7th, 2006 at 11:07 PM.

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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    Quote Originally Posted by YumaJim View Post
    I have found that some routers and some WiFi Hot spots when connecting leave
    the Ubuntu routing table empty. Looking at the end of the dmesg data one sees
    that no IPV6 routes are defined. This seems strange since an IP address was assigned
    to my connection. This seems to verify that the dhcp code is overwriting the route
    data or is never writing the route data. Either way it is messed up!

    The way I fixed the problem was to do the following:

    Code:
    sudo route add default gw dev wlan0
    This tells the system to send the internet commands through the WiFi device, in my case 'wanl0'.
    I added the above command to a bash script that I use to connect to the Internet. I saw in one
    of the other threads that 'wifi-radar' worked. I'll gave it a try.

    YumaJim
    I installed 'wifi-radar' and it works. All the other wifi
    managers need to operate like wifi-radar. It fills in the router table correctly.
    YumaJim

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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    Hi,
    I have the problem where I can connect to my wireless network and go to my router's configuration page, but I can't access the internet. Ping also does not work to any site on the internet. If I use a wired connection, I can access the internet just fine.

    I tried:

    sudo route add default gw dev eth1

    and got this:

    dev: Unknown host

    My wireless interface is eth1 not wlan0. Is there anything else I have to change based on what the names of things are in my setup?

    Also, I was going to try the how-to in this thread, but how to I find out the primary and backup name servers of my isp? I have just switched from Windows to linux and I never had to worry about the nameservers before.

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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    You should be able to find your isp's dns addresses on another computer connected
    to you isp or on the isp's wed site. They should have setup information some place on their site.

    When you run command: ifconfig
    Does it show your wi-fi device as eth1?
    Seems strange that when tring to add the default gw to the routing table that 'eth1'
    is UNKOWN.

    YumaJim
    Last edited by YumaJim; January 9th, 2007 at 12:47 AM.

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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    Quote Originally Posted by YumaJim View Post
    You should be able to find your isp's dns addresses on another computer connected
    to you isp or on the isp's wed site. They should have setup information some place on their site.

    When you run command: ifconfig
    Does it show your wi-fi device as eth1?
    Seems strange that when tring to add the default gw to the routing table that 'eth1'
    is UNKOWN.

    YumaJim
    Thanks for your reply. I actually got my wan to work for a while by entering the DNS servers in my router's configuration page. Now, however, it has stopped working for some reason. I can still connect to lan and my router's config page. But I have no internet. Yes, ifconfig says eth1 is my wi-fi device, but route tells me

    dev: Unknown host

    when I do

    sudo route add default gw dev eth1.

    I tried wi-fi radar, too, but It doesn't let me do anything. It lists the wireless networks in range but doesn't give me any option to do anything. (It says I am connected to my network actually, but when I push "disconnect" it doesn't do anything).

    Before when I was troubleshooting I edited my /etc/network/interfaces file to say:
    iface eth1 inet dhcp
    wireless-essid cougar[name of my network]
    wireless-key s: [I have no security]

    Do you think that might be the problem?

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    Re: HOWTO: fix browsing problems with common routers

    Thank you very much for your information!! It is really very useful.........

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