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    Red face Ubentoo Box...A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

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    I have seen how you can use KNOPPIX to install Gentoo(which also installs Debian),...also I have seen Gentoo and Debian create Gentoo/BSD, and Debian/BSD hybrids...

    I have also seen how SabayonLinux has made the use of Gentoo easy.

    Here is the concept a Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid:

    Ubentoo


    Imagine first of all Ubuntu with Emerge...Image the ease of installation of Gentoo as found in Ubuntu..

    It would require (I think) making Gentoo the foundation of Ubuntu as opposed to Debian. (or making the foundation a combination of Debian and Gentoo....utilize the best from both)

    The current Debian based Ubuntu would and should continue to exist but if there are any developers, idealist, dreamers who think this would be a great idea...lets here from you...

    Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    This is purely conceptual and I would like to hear opinions or even give birth to a new concept
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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by RAV TUX View Post
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    I have seen how you can use KNOPPIX to install Gentoo(which also installs Debian),...also I have seen Gentoo and Debian create Gentoo/BSD, and Debian/BSD hybrids...

    I have also seen how SabayonLinux has made the use of Gentoo easy.

    Here is the concept a Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid:

    Ubentoo


    Imagine first of all Ubuntu with Emerge...Image the ease of installation of Gentoo as found in Ubuntu..

    It would require (I think) making Gentoo the foundation of Ubuntu as opposed to Debian. (or making the foundation a combination of Debian and Gentoo....utilize the best from both)

    The current Debian based Ubuntu would and should continue to exist but if there are any developers, idealist, dreamers who think this would be a great idea...lets here from you...

    Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    This is purely conceptual and I would like to hear opinions or even give birth to a new concept

    Interesting enough Gentoo appears to be a breed of Penguin...

    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:09 PM.

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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Ubentoo screenshot

    (actually KNOPPIX 5.0.1 with the Gentoo Penguin nest wallpaper)
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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by RAV TUX View Post
    I have seen how you can use KNOPPIX to install Gentoo(which also installs Debian),...also I have seen Gentoo and Debian create Gentoo/BSD, and Debian/BSD hybrids...
    Yes, you can install Gentoo from any Linux distrib, just like you can install Debian or Ubuntu from any Linux distrib with debootstrap. This can be useful for doing some specific install, or if you've troubles with Gentoo, Debian or Ubuntu installer (livecd).

    I don't see the link with Gentoo/BSD, and Debian/BSD hybrids, which is a total different concept. It's about keeping the GNU part of GNU/Linux, and replacing the Linux part (the kernel) with BSD. I don't really like it, but at least I can see some reasons. Here are a few:
    http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/why.en.html

    I'm curious to learn the reasons behind your project idea, besides the "Because we can."
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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by shining View Post
    Yes, you can install Gentoo from any Linux distrib, just like you can install Debian or Ubuntu from any Linux distrib with debootstrap. This can be useful for doing some specific install, or if you've troubles with Gentoo, Debian or Ubuntu installer (livecd).

    I don't see the link with Gentoo/BSD, and Debian/BSD hybrids, which is a total different concept. It's about keeping the GNU part of GNU/Linux, and replacing the Linux part (the kernel) with BSD. I don't really like it, but at least I can see some reasons. Here are a few:
    http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/why.en.html

    I'm curious to learn the reasons behind your project idea, besides the "Because we can."
    using Emerge with Ubuntu would be reason enough, but honestly it is just an idea.
    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:11 PM.

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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Interesting idea...
    I would love to be able to compile packages effortlessly with emerge at the same time as I would have access to the huge repository of binary debian packages.
    Maybe a modification of emerge could be made, so it would compile debian packages and then call on dpkg to install the package.
    The dependencies of emerge would have to somehow be satisifed by debian packages as well.
    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:12 PM.

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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    I'd just settle for a synaptic with a 'compile and optimize from source' option
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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by RAV TUX View Post
    Interesting enough Gentu appears to be a breed of Penguin, here is a picture of a Gentu Penguin nest...



    Gentoo IS a type of penguins... Gentu isn't.
    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:25 PM.

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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Would´t be easier to create an Ubuntu version tweaked to use apt-build (sudo apt-get install apt-build if you dont know what i mean) instead of regular apt-get?

    Since apt-build builds the software from source would be "almost" the same than using portage? (and much easier to implement)
    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:13 PM.
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    Re: Ubentoo....A Ubuntu/Gentoo hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by Dual Cortex View Post
    Gentoo IS a type of penguins... Gentu isn't.
    you are correct...and there is a spelling error of Gentoo online
    http://mstecker.com/pages/antpengnest.htm
    (unless there is more then one way to spell Gentoo/Gentu?)

    particulary the picture I posted...

    also I have found an old, questionable active distro by the name of Gentus
    http://home.c2i.net/espensh/#

    so it appears a new new name for this concept has to be given:

    Ubentoo ?

    or something completely different?
    Last edited by RAV TUX; November 26th, 2006 at 11:05 PM.

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