Yeah... Thus enters the only remaining dilemma behind Conky these days. If it can be done, it's been done to death already.
This is, by far, the greatest limitation Conky is putting on the rest of us. Since it really is just a formatted text display program, there are a finite number of ways to do a layout that makes any sense. The common Right-Side-Column, the Individualised Sections, The Lua-Heavy Workaround, or the Sector11 Special (So named for the Multiple Conky Programs running in every corner of a desktop. A speciality that Sector11 excels at better than anyone else I've ever met.) they've all been done to death.
You can change some colours, or position something at the top that was once at the bottom, sure. What matters is that it works for your needs/desires. Unfortunately, it also means we're all kind of bored and hoping someone comes up with something new to, for lack of a better term, feed our addiction for design and layout.
Sorry... Just... reminiscing about the topic...
i think there is life in conky yet (or at least conky/lua)
there are a couple of things in my new conky that i havnt seen before in other conkies... mechanics wise if not design wise
and i plan on making the weather section clickable/interactive
one button gives you current conditions, another button switches the view to forecast
interactive conky in general has only just begun.... who know if this will eventually be built into conky 2.0 or beyond
just look here to see whats been done already
Last edited by mrpeachy; July 19th, 2012 at 05:55 AM.
That is certainly awesome. But, I would point out, that's a LUA workaround. And we've seen Conky setups with LUA doing amazing things for quite some time now. It's not really Conky doing that, Conky just loaded a script that you wrote that does all that.
And, I would also point out, that a lot of the LUA Workarounds we've seen are, more often than not, YOURS. You and dk75 have contributed tons to the LUA Scripting and the use of "Stuff That Can Be Used To Fill The Gaps Conky Leaves Behind" and all of that is awesome.
But... When it comes right down to it... CONKY doesn't do any of this. We've kind of run our course for the limits of the program itself, and resorted to dumping in anything we can get our mitts on to go any further. It's kind of like you're saying the future of Conky is in abandoning it for all the stuff it doesn't come with.
Of course, I'm saying this not as a complaint, but rather an admission of reality. Conky Itself, outputting data on screen, is really all the program does. We've pushed out and got to every nook and cranny, and now have to step over it's beaten corpse to go any further. It's... kinda frustrating. Even though your scripts are going toward being interactive, they're still a Weather script, or a LUA Graphics script, or such like that. New ways of doing the same things. It's hard to get excited over that. I still enjoy your scripts, mrpeachy. Just, I feel more like the bored art teacher I used to have, rather than a real Conky Aficionado.
I haven't checked into it for a while, but if I'm not mistaken, the Conky 2.x .conkyrc scripts themselves are written (or capable of being written) in Lua. I *think* they just got so far ahead of the curve, it freaked everyone out, and the project stagnated.
Let's face it, Conky 1.x is a krudge. It's just a cobbled together mess, that somehow magically works with enough tweaking.
Anyway, I think Conky 2.x will be the second coming, if they every get it off the ground.
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Lua Config branch is supposed to be.
It has seen some development lately but I am only guessing what it is by its name since I have never seen any official comment on it.
What is the problem with that? Can you do this kind of thing in Windows? Have you tried modifying the conky code itself? Perhaps you can integrate Lua into conky...
At any rate, I briefly wondered about interactive features with conky, and I am happy to hear it can be done... I would love to be able to click on the weather forecast and change locations.
I see other possibilities; not yet fully-formed thoughts, but hints of things probably better left undone.
^ i agree
i think it is wrong to separate out user made scripts as "workarounds"
it's no accident that when you run conky -v you get this at the end:
as well as an ever growing number of lua related settings and objectsCode:* Lua Lua bindings: * Cairo * Imlib2
running user made scripts through conky is just as much "conky" as using the built in objects.
Last edited by mrpeachy; July 19th, 2012 at 09:17 PM.