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    What is bad about Automatix

    Hi, I have just used Automatix to install..stuff. but then after a quick google i saw alot of people Hate automatix..Why, have a harmed my system by using it?
    I would love to change the world, but they wont give me the source code

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    Well in general it's not going to destroy your system, but it changes some files and configurations (like for example your repository list) and sometimes it does things the wrong way (not often but it can happen) and if it does happen to screw stuff up it can be really hard to fix.

    So it's not necesarily going to destroy your system or anything, but it has the potential to screw stuff up in wierd ways and could be difficult to fix or roll back.

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    Well, it seems as ubuntu has begun to run slower, is it anny way to check my system for errors
    I would love to change the world, but they wont give me the source code

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    According to the Ubuntu Technical Board it could quite possibly break your system. I have helped lots of users in the past that have had broken systems because of Automatix. If you want to use it, at least be aware of the possible problems and that if it does happen you may have to reinstall.
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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    I have used it, and now my system is slower, but i spent alot of time on it and don't want to re-install Ubuntu
    I would love to change the world, but they wont give me the source code

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    Quote Originally Posted by ajmannen View Post
    Hi, I have just used Automatix to install..stuff. but then after a quick google i saw alot of people Hate automatix..Why, have a harmed my system by using it?
    read this:
    http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?op...644&Itemid=449

    most of the people who post negative comments about automatix, have never used it. they're just stupid people repeating what they've read. and of couse as more and more stupid people repeat any thing negative, the bigger it becomes. in reality, the little damage the automatix may have caused is done during an upgrade from one ubuntu version, to another. and the best way to get the newest version is not by upgrading, but doing a fresh install. i've got automatix on two of my computers. and never had a problem. and i'm sure i'm not in the minority here. so to all of the stupid people out there who've NEVER used automatix. shut up!! and stop repeating what you've read.

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    From Live Journal:

    Automatix is, in itself, a poor quality package which fails to
    conform to Debian or Ubuntu policy.

    # Passes --assume-yes to apt-get, which will (as a result) happily
    remove packages without giving the user an opportunity to
    intervene. This is especially bad when removing Automatix modules -
    any package that depends on one of the packages being removed will
    also be uninstalled, even if the package was originally installed via
    something other than Automatix!

    # Has no internal dependency management. Unable to keep track of why
    packages were installed, so prevents the removal of the multimedia
    module because that would remove sections of other modules without
    explicitly removing that module. Installing swiftfoxplugins will pull
    in several plugin packages, but removing swiftfoxplugins will not
    remove them even if nothing else depends on them. Also means that
    package installation and uninstallation have to be manually kept in
    sync - uninstall will not always remove all packages that were
    installed.

    # Has no concept of file tracking, so will just remove entire
    directories. Makes no attempt to ensure that a user-installed version
    is not already installed in the same location, so effectively assumes
    that the /opt namespace belongs to it.
    # Will remove Ubuntu repository packages in favour of tarballs with
    no warning.
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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    Quote Originally Posted by ajmannen View Post
    I have used it, and now my system is slower, but i spent alot of time on it and don't want to re-install Ubuntu
    this is probably because you've installed many things. and these are loading at startup. this is why people blame windows for being slow. it's not the os. but all of the software designed to load at startup.

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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    Quote Originally Posted by oilchangeguy View Post
    read this:
    http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?op...644&Itemid=449

    most of the people who post negative comments about automatix, have never used it. they're just stupid people repeating what they've read. and of couse as more and more stupid people repeat any thing negative, the bigger it becomes. in reality, the little damage the automatix may have caused is done during an upgrade from one ubuntu version, to another. and the best way to get the newest version is not by upgrading, but doing a fresh install. i've got automatix on two of my computers. and never had a problem. and i'm sure i'm not in the minority here. so to all of the stupid people out there who've NEVER used automatix. shut up!! and stop repeating what you've read.

    The link I posted was part of a report from the Ubuntu Technical Board, not just someone who doesnt know what they are talking about. This isnt just nay sayers but cold hard facts from someone who's job it is to look at the problems from the Technical point of view of developers.
    While you may never have had problems, you must at least understand that it is possible that others have. That when it does happen, most of the time its new users without a firm grasp of troubleshooting. All because someone told them it was the way to go.
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    Re: What is bad about Automatix

    The first time I installed Ubuntu I used Automatix. My system was slow and had issues with Azureus, Java, QuickTime format and other media formats. When I uninstalled Automatix it ended up messing my sources.list and I had to fix it manually. I reinstalled my system (because I wanted to give more hdd space) and I tried this how-to for Feisty. Now everything works fine, like a charm!

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