Sabayon Linux Talk

[RAV TUX]

I'm writing this from Sabayon Linux (specifically RR64, built on Gentoo GNU/Linux).

fastest, easiest install I have yet to see. Polish, and sexyness of Gentoo without typing any mad shell commands.

The only other Linux Distro I have tested today is SimplyMepis and I have to say that it is about 1000 times better then this.

consistent quality of everything simply working, like Mepis it is also in KDE. Unlike Mepis it has recognized my mouse consistently, and the screen display GUI is by default up on the desktop for you to tweak, but I didn't need to, like Ubuntu the settings were right on.

This build is super fast and the default desktop is beautiful.

I am so far impressed and have made the decision I will not be trying Mephis again. This is just too beautiful, and everything just works pain free.

If you have ever wanted the polish, speed and customization of Gentoo but maybe didn't want to be burdened with or plain just don't have the time to set it up. Sabayon is the anwser for you.

If you like KDE I have to say having tried many KDE linux Distros and many BSD distros, Sabayon has the best KDE set up I have ever seen.

Even though I like Gnome I may set this up on this box atleast.

to download and try for yourself go here:
http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php...d=16&Itemid=27

I am specifically using the mini edition since I can't get my computer to boot from DVD. The mini-editions are on CD the full editions are on DVD:

RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 miniEdition: Download page 3.0RC1 miniEdition (codename: miniEdition - maxiSurprise) RR64 Linux 3.0 RC1 miniEdition, commonly called the “mini”, is the CD release of the latest RR64 Linux. The creation of this special version, has been made by an automatic script that has shrinked down the whole chroot jail by removing every duplicated, useless or server-oriented package. Preserving intact the multimedia orientation of every lxnay dEsigN release is my mission. So, enjoy that beautiful piece of software. Features: Same techinical specifications of RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 (full), except: No SMP kernel available (only a normal mono-processor kernel 2.6.16.11) Latest proprietary drivers from ATi (8.24. and nVIDIA (8756) Faster boot time compared to RR64 Linux Fully reliable on memory constrained systems (128Mb of RAM) Fluxbox available as a viable alternative to KDE 3.5.2 XGL (latest stable official CVS release) and Compiz 0.0.8 Internet Kiosk features (NX Client and Server) XsistenCe features (RR64 + USB memory = your home/data everywhere): read release notes Complete integration of Tor (just boot with: gentoo tor) with Konqueror and Firefox No extra language available by default (only English): they could be installed after the installation No Stage 1,2,3 installation CD to HD installation 4-5 times faster than the full RR64 Linux KOffice 1.5.0 suite K3B 0.12.15 amaroK 1.4 b3 Kaffeine 0.8.1 Multimedia features kept intact Links: RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 miniEdition Torrent Download RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 miniEdition HTTP download (use with care please) RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 miniEdition ISO MD5 RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 miniEdition Release Notes RR64 Linux Support forum Kernel .config non-SMP 3.0RC1 Installed software (equery list) RR64 Linux Video sporting XGL in action (XviD 1.1) RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 Wallpaper (1024x76 RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 Wallpaper (oriz. text - 1024x76 RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 Wallpaper (oriz. text - 1280x1024) RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 Wallpaper (oriz. text - 2560x1024) Post Install Screenshot 1 Post Install Screenshot 2 Tor Enabled Screenshot

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[RAV TUX]

While Sabayon Linux is the best distro I have found. I find the forums overall very technical and advanced.

I doesn't come with the proper codec to play videos atleast here in the US, So I will have to load them.

[Jucato]

Another interesting find by yozef!

Just a few questions about it:
1. Isn't the RR64 version for 64-bit processors, while the RR4 is for the 32-bit ones?

2. the list of features you gave (which you quoted from the main site) is a bit ambiguous. Does it mean that all lines after "Same techinical specifications of RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 (full), except:" are not found in the "mini" CD versions? The listing format is quite unclear.

3. It's a good KDE distro (I'm taking your word for it). But would you recommend it for beginner/intermediate level Linux users? You compared it to both SimplyMEPIS and Kubuntu, which are notoriously famous for being oriented towards new Linux users. RR4/RR64 is Gentoo based, though, so I'm having some thoughts about it.

I might try downloading the ISO and try it out on VMWare first, before I make a test install. I'm looking at the screenshots now. Looks good, but I don't like the default wallpaper for RR4.

[RAV TUX]

Originally Posted by Fenyx Another interesting find by yozef! Just a few questions about it: 1. Isn't the RR64 version for 64-bit processors, while the RR4 is for the 32-bit ones? 2. the list of features you gave (which you quoted from the main site) is a bit ambiguous. Does it mean that all lines after "Same techinical specifications of RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 (full), except:" are not found in the "mini" CD versions? The listing format is quite unclear. 3. It's a good KDE distro (I'm taking your word for it). But would you recommend it for beginner/intermediate level Linux users? You compared it to both SimplyMEPIS and Kubuntu, which are notoriously famous for being oriented towards new Linux users. RR4/RR64 is Gentoo based, though, so I'm having some thoughts about it. I might try downloading the ISO and try it out on VMWare first, before I make a test install. I'm looking at the screenshots now. Looks good, but I don't like the default wallpaper for RR4.

This is one of the top finds that I have found and I am very pleased with the overall look, feel and usability of Sabayon.

1. Yes I believe you are correct the RR64 is for 64 bit.

2. This a bit confusing because it does start out as a list of exceptions but then without warning begins to make other notes. (Thanks for reminding my about the quote, I forgot to place it in qoutes)

I believe the exception statement only pertains to the following line:

Same techinical specifications of RR64 Linux 3.0RC1 (full), except: No SMP kernel available (only a normal mono-processor kernel 2.6.16.11)

The second bullet appears to be a mistake.

3. I would say this is NOT good for beginners but intermediate or advanced at best. Saying that I consider myself a beginner, but keep in mind it is based on Gentoo but it is preconfigured so you don't have to mess with shell commands. I would say the learning curve would be the same as Ubuntu in general but the forums seem to be filled with advanced users so this is why I don't recommend it for beginners.

overall I am pleased with it but I have a couple of hurdles,

1. I have to install codecs, I popped a movie in and it gives great info and link for what I need to load but doesn't automagically play the movie like dyne-bolic does. This can be expected for most distros with some exceptions.

2. The installer is a Gentoo installer which is very easy to use. I am just a bit unfimiliar with it.

I am still only running the live CD. My wife appears to like it but felt sad when she saw Tux full of thorns.

[Jucato]

I couldn't understand/appreciate the concept behind the wallpapers. They have different wallpapers for RR64 and RR4. The one for RR64 is the cactus-like Tux, which is a bit strange, if not demented (couldn't think up of an appropriate adjective). The one for RR4 has a phrase that goes "the story of one fried egg. Mrs. Hen and the Linux penguin". Really strange.

The default RR4 theme looks almost like MEPIS. I'm guessing they're probably using similar icon themes, widget styles, window decorations, etc. I guess I have to really install it (not in VMWare) to get a "feel" of the speed you're talking about. But I might not go there yet. I'm not yet prepared to go into Gentoo (and Slackware) yet. (I haven't even tried any RPM-based distro).

Some other time maybe...

[RAV TUX]

Originally Posted by Fenyx I couldn't understand/appreciate the concept behind the wallpapers. They have different wallpapers for RR64 and RR4. The one for RR64 is the cactus-like Tux, which is a bit strange, if not demented (couldn't think up of an appropriate adjective). The one for RR4 has a phrase that goes "the story of one fried egg. Mrs. Hen and the Linux penguin". Really strange. The default RR4 theme looks almost like MEPIS. I'm guessing they're probably using similar icon themes, widget styles, window decorations, etc. I guess I have to really install it (not in VMWare) to get a "feel" of the speed you're talking about. But I might not go there yet. I'm not yet prepared to go into Gentoo (and Slackware) yet. (I haven't even tried any RPM-based distro). Some other time maybe...

I felt it is a lot more polished and professional then the Mepis Distro.

I honestly felt it is quite easy overall, I have tried Gentoo and was always impressed with it. Sabayon could in Theory be called "easy Gentoo".

[RAV TUX]

OK I am going to attempt an install of Sabayon Linux now.

I'll follow up.

[Jucato]

Hey Jozef, you might find this interview interesting:

http://dot.kde.org/1153960955/

It's an interview with Fabio Erculani, founder and developer of Sabayon.

From the interview, it seems that Sabayon is developed by only one man. I'm usually scared of one-man-team distros...

[RAV TUX]

Originally Posted by Fenyx Hey Jozef, you might find this interview interesting: http://dot.kde.org/1153960955/ It's an interview with Fabio Erculani, founder and developer of Sabayon.

Thanks for the link.

Originally Posted by Fenyx From the interview, it seems that Sabayon is developed by only one man. I'm usually scared of one-man-team distros...

This is why I shy away from Mepis.

[Jucato]

Except that MEPIS isn't really just a one man team, although Warren does get the spotlight most of the time.

http://www.mepis.org/people
(and a few scattered posts in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201614)

Contrast that to:

I counted only on myself. I grab and even steal every good idea from the users and try to implement that. I do not follow a timed release schedule, because it's something stupid in my opinion, I prefer to follow a feature release schedule. Working alone is quite hard, but if you believe on what you are doing, you can do everything you want. An example? Try to compare the latest RR4 release with any other KDE-based distribution and keep in mind that I've always worked alone. The results? Just let me know...

Hey, I'm not bashing Sabayon or anything.