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    Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Hello all.

    I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac) running El Captian.

    At first I created a USB installer following these instructions : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/deskt...ick-on-mac-osx
    I downloaded ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.img and converted it to .iso.

    When selecting the USB to boot from, it brings up the Grub 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.3 menu
    Code:
    *Try Ubuntu without installing
    Install Unbuntu
    OEM install (for manufacturers)
    Check disc for defects
    Once you select an option (either the first or second) the screen goes blank and nothing happens.

    I have tried this with both a 4Gb an 8Gb drive.

    I then tried this method : http://www.howtogeek.com/213396/how-...e-on-your-mac/
    I used the downloaded iso file and attempted to boot from it. Here is the output:
    Code:
    SO path: (hd0,msdos1)/efi/boot/boot.iso
    kernel path: /casper/vmlinuz.efi | ramdisc path: /casper/initrd.lz
    boot folder : casper | boot parameters: file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed
    
    
    Loading Linux kernel..done
    
    
    Loading initial RM disc... done
    
    
    Attempting to boot the Linux distribution now...
    At this point the process hangs and doesn't continue. I also tried a 4Gb and 8Gb key.

    I repeated the process but I let the Mac Linux USB loader download Ubuntu 15.04 instead. This made no difference.

    The third attempt used the UNetbooting process http://unetbootin.github.io/#other with my downloaded .iso file.
    This produced the same results as the first method (i.e. black screen after the grub menu).

    At this point I'm wondering what else to try. Would trying to boot off an external superdrive make any difference?
    Do I need to disable csrutil before attempting to boot off the USB?

    I note that there isn't much discussion about dual-booting iMacs here, the majority of the forum discussed dual-booting MacBooks (I have a dual-boot MacBook 5,3 with Ubuntu 14.04).

    Is installing Ubuntu on an iMac more difficult than a MacBook?

    Hoping someone can help.
    Last edited by __PG__; November 21st, 2015 at 11:04 AM.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Hello,
    With Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.4 make USB pendrive as bootable.
    and shutdown MAC, and power it on with holding OPTION button. boot with USB device

    THanks
    NSR

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    That executable only works for Windows as far as I can tell.

    I repeated the official Ubuntu USB instructions with csrutil disabled. It made no difference.
    I also used the the other iso file ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso. This made no difference.

    I burnt the original file ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso onto a DVD and tried to boot from the USB superdrive. Before the grub menu appears, I get the following message
    Code:
    error : file '/boot' not found
    The grub menu then appears, however once again a black screen occurs when attempting to boot.

    I might try and use grub commands directly. When upgrading my MacBook Pro to OS X Mavericks it broke rEFIt/Grub so I had to manually boot using the grub command line.

    I presume the following procedure will work
    Code:
    root=(hd0,xxx)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-**** root=/dev/*** ro
    initrd /boot/initrd-****
    boot
    I just need to find out where the /boot directory lies on the USB or DVD.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Just looking at the default boot commands in Grub for *Try Ubuntu without installing when booting off cdrom
    Code:
    setparams 'Try Ubuntu without installing'
    
         set gfxpayload=keep
         linux            /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash --
         initrd           /casper/initird.iz
    I might have to read up a bit more about GRUB2, it seems its a bit different to GRUB.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Maybe the problem is related to your video card.
    Just try the kernel parameter 'nomodeset'.

    Before hit try ubuntu, press key e
    Replace quiet spash with nomodeset

    Press Ctrl + x when done.
    Oldschool

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    I think you're right.
    I think the issue is video related. I managed to get beyond the basic Grub2.0 screen by altering the gfxpayload command with a variety of screen resolutions. One of them worked however Grub failed to load as using 'Ctrl-X' didn't actually boot, rather it just passes 'x' as a Grub parameters F10 made it boot but Grub failed with a message along the lines of 'Command X' not found.

    Next time I'll pass the right screen resolution to gfxpayload and only use F10. I'll also try nomodeset.
    Last edited by __PG__; November 29th, 2015 at 10:27 AM.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Were you able to find a solution? I am running into the exact same issue. Have tried both CentOS and Ubuntu distros (with and without rEFInd) on this new iMac but only receive the same blank black screen. Thanks.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Not yet.

    I tried replacing quiet splash with nomodeset. It didn't work.
    I added nomodeset after quiet splash. That didn't work.
    I removed quiet splash.
    I then tried various single screen resolutions with gfxpayload but they didn't work.
    I got it working once...I'll keep at it.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    Thanks for the reply. Will keep checking this thread... If I can find some time to dig further into this and come up with a solution, I will update as well.

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    Re: Cannot boot from USB on iMac17,1 (27-inch 5k retina iMac running El Capitan)

    It turns out that regardless of whatever gfxpayload options I provide, as long as enter an extraneous 'x' at the end of the grub command section, I will generate the subsequent menu 'error, command 'x' not found'.

    So I had never had it working before.

    I'm going to have a look at this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535

    I've tried the 14.04 LTS USB and CDROM to boot on my old MacBook (which actually has Ubuntu installed) and it fails to boot there.
    I get to the Ubuntu purple splash screen with five yellow dots, they all change colour, and then it hangs.
    Evidently the message error : file '/boot' not found[COLOR=#000000]
    means I'll have to figure out how to set it up via the GRUB2 command line.
    Last edited by __PG__; December 9th, 2015 at 10:56 AM.

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