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    Exclamation Cannot get past system updates check

    Hello,

    I've got Kubuntu on an HP Compaq 8510w with an Nvidia graphics card.
    I seem to stuck in a loop in the updates. When Muon starts its says I have new packages to install.
    Then it says mys system update is more than a week ago, "please run Check for updates".
    When I run I crash in the errors:
    I attached screenshot.

    I read some instructions that I should run :
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    sudo apt-get update

    This still doesn't help and I cannot get passed that error.

    Any hints?

    Thanks
    Richard
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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    Those PPAs no longer exist, hence the errors.
    Remove them then run in this exact order:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (optional)
    Galiza Nação!

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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    richlion2; Hey ...

    ninja'd by Vladlenin5000; but my validation:

    per:
    http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
    raring was the last supported release from this PPA.
    In Software Center disable this PPA .

    now see what results;
    terminal commands:
    Code:
    sudo apt-gt update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    ? finer than a frog's hair
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    Question Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    This command:
    sudo apt-get update
    shows these errors:
    Code:
    : Nie udało się pobrać http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
    
    W: Nie udało się pobrać http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
    
    E: Nie udało się pobrać niektórych plików indeksu, zostały one zignorowane lub użyto ich starszej wersji.
    How should I proceed?

    I am interested in why the Muon updater does handle this situation?
    I am preparing a laptop for someone who has no clue about an operating system, so I need to make sure I provide support and the updates will not come to a dead end like I had with other distros.

    Thanks
    Last edited by richlion2; April 28th, 2015 at 06:09 PM.

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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    If you are going to support a linux distro, then it would be smart of you to make sure :

    > That you are using an LTS version (with support for 5 years from release date),
    > That your "Sources List" is correct (and stays correct . . only you can change it),
    > IF you do not FULLY understand the concepts of official repositories and sources . . please read up on that . . only add PPA's from trusted sources and that exactly match the release version (e.g., 14.04.2 "Trusty")
    > Also, recognize each source may be a different physical server also (and url), and could be temporarily "down" at any time . . .often a good idea is to check "choose best server" from time to time in your updater app

    So, perhaps an full edit of Sources tab in the updater (or in /etc/sources) will reveal what needs to be removed.

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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    richlion2; Good Morning .


    +1 to Geoffrey_Arndt's recommendations.

    Looks as there is yet another PPA that might be unsupported ..:
    How should I proceed?

    I am interested in why the Muon updater does handle this situation?
    I am preparing a laptop for someone who has no clue about an operating system, so I need to make sure I provide support and the updates will not come to a dead end like I had with other distros.How should I proceed?

    Package management is a system in it's own right, and yes it can get rather deep and complex. This is the reference I still use:
    https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/d..._prerequisites.

    How do we proceed - we check the source list file(S) and see what the system is directing to fetch and from where.

    To aid you in this determination, post back - Between code tags, please - the outputs of terminal commands:
    Code:
    cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list
    tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
    code tag tutorial:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...8#post12776168

    Get the source(s) list(S) correct for the applications, system then updated and the installed packages upgraded to what is current , Turn the box over to your client .

    1 2 3
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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    Hello,

    thanks for all your patience, since I am new to Ubuntu I know I need to learn how the packaging system and there are a lot of new terms I am not familiar with.

    In the meantime, here are the contents you requested:

    Code:
    $ cat  -n /etc/apt/sources.list
         1  # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140416.1)]/ trusty main multiverse restricted universe
         2
         3  # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
         4  # newer versions of the distribution.
         5  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
         6  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
         7
         8  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
         9  ## distribution.
        10  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
        11  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
        12
        13  ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
        14  ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
        15  ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
        16  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
        17  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
        18  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
        19  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
        20
        21  ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu 
        22  ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to 
        23  ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in 
        24  ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
        25  ## security team.
        26  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
        27  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
        28  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
        29  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
        30
        31  ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
        32  ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
        33  ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
        34  ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
        35  ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
        36  deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
        37  deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
        38
        39  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
        40  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted                                                          
        41  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe                                                                     
        42  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe                                                                 
        43  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse                                                                   
        44  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse                                                               
        45                                                                                                                                     
        46  ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's                                                              
        47  ## 'partner' repository.                                                                                                                
        48  ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the                                                                
        49  ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.                                                                                        
        50  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner                                                                                     
        51  # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner                                                                                
        52                                                                                                                                              
        53  ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party                                                                        
        54  ## developers who want to ship their latest software.                                                                                        
        55  deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
        56  deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
    krysia@Paderewski:~$ tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
    ==> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disper-dev-ppa-trusty.list <==
    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    
    ==> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disper-dev-ppa-trusty.list.save <==
    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    
    ==> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers-ppa-trusty.list <==
    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    
    ==> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers-ppa-trusty.list.save <==
    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu trusty main
    krysia@Paderewski:~$
    Thanks again,
    Richard

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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    richlion2; Hello;

    Hey, It is all a process of learning and picking up on linux is akin to learning a new language -> patience is a virtue and you only get out of it what you put into it.
    In this case the patience thing is finding the cause of the package manager's discontent.
    That 2nd PPA that the Package manager is screaming and hollering about:
    Let's look at what it is trying to fetch:
    in your browser:
    Code:
    http://ppa.launchpad.net/disper-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
    you see there is no listing for trusty. Thus the system is unable again to comply.

    Disable this source also.

    Now let's see what the status is:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    I do expect there to be new kernels available for install in that output . If so we deal with the "held packages" when the system is stable.

    ain't nothing but a thing
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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    Thank you so much for helping. I did manage to remove those from the repository using Muon (brilliant !!!! )

    Update and Upgrade now works.


    I may have found the source of my problems.
    I search on how to play blue-ray discs with VLC and came up with instructions on this like that may be out of date:
    http://askubuntu.com/questions/14008...-ray-using-vlc

    The fist two instructions are giving me a warning that the sources are for upcoming releases:
    Code:
    rysiek@richlion9:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
     This PPA contains daily builds from the latest VLC maintenance branch.
    
    This PPA is used for test building new and upcoming point releases of VLC that can get into Ubuntu through stable release updates (SRU) or security updates. You don't find major version updates in this PPA (e.g. no update from 2.1.x to 2.2.x).
     More info: https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily
    Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
    
    gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmppqrinub1/secring.gpg' created
    gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmppqrinub1/pubring.gpg' created
    gpg: requesting key 801DF724 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
    gpg: /tmp/tmppqrinub1/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
    gpg: key 801DF724: public key "Launchpad Daily Build of master branch" imported
    gpg: Total number processed: 1
    gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
    OK
    But then I get errors when running sudo apt-get update:
    Code:
    Get:33 http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en [1,978 B]           
    Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages                        
      404  Not Found
    Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
      404  Not Found
    Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en_GB                     
    Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                        
    Fetched 2,947 kB in 13s (213 kB/s)                                             
    W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/mplayer-daily/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
    
    E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
    rysiek@richlion9:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
    I think I need a more up to date version of how to install stuff for playing blue-ray, maybe someone has hints on where I can find instructions?

    I found how to use SMPlayer here:
    http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/...blu-ray-discs/

    I am not a big fan of SMPlayer, I'd rather use VLC.

    Thanks,
    Richard
    Last edited by richlion2; May 11th, 2015 at 10:28 PM.

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    Re: Cannot get past system updates check

    richlion2; Yuk;

    You are not checking what you are doing:
    PPAs are 3rd party software - not supported by ubuntu - use at your own risk, AND do your homework.
    http://ppa.launchpad.net/motumedia/m.../ubuntu/dists/
    Has no provision for 'trusty' .
    So clean up the mess, install VLC properly, and the dependencies required to utilized non-free means.

    To see the status of vlc:
    Code:
    dpkg -l vlc
    the 1st column in the output we hope is 'ii' .
    If it is 'ii" then install the dependencies for non-free use of codecs:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
    sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
    sudo apt-get install libdvdcss libdvdnav4
    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
    try'n to help
    in this process of learning
    THE current(cy) in Documentation:
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    Happy ubuntu'n !

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