Well, I settled on using the secondary boot key to get to windows.
The real problem with this machine is that there is no way to boot in UEFI except through network or the Windows partition. No matter what I tried I couldn't get any other option to come up. (If anyone else is successful with the Lenovo 585 on this I would love to know.) Since I could not boot Linux in UEFI, I could not install it in UEFI, because Ubuntu installs in the format that it was booted. That is logical, of course.
There was one possibility I ran across that I didn't try. One of the links on Oldfred's signature (http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/) suggests getting Windows to point to another bootloader.
There it is suggested to run something like this at the C: prompt in Windows:
Code:
bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\fedora\grubx64.efi
This was promising, but I do not like leaving the well being of Ubuntu in the hands of Windows. Also, doing this seems to me to be dangerous. It seems you get one shot to get it right, or else you need to reinstall Windows to get it's boot manager and bootloader working correctly again. Perhaps I would have been more daring with my own machine.
In the end, I might even like a LEnovo 585 for myself because of the secondary boot key (which they call one-key recovery). It actually presents an easy solution to the whole mess that has come about because of UEFI.
This also taught me that before I buy a machine I will check to see if I can boot a UEFI capable live CD of Linux there first. If I can, then all the rest of the game can be played.
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