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    Re: For Speed: install another desktop, or another distro?

    Sorry it took so long to reply. Work has been a nightmare as of late.

    The relationship is xubuntu and xfce are just about the same thing. xubuntu is built on the xfce interface which uses xserver. To be honest I haven't really seen a noticeable difference between the two so I'm not really sure why they are listed separately.

    You do have a variant of linux which is Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a "debian based" variant. What the community did after that was modify the interface and base packages making different "flavors" of Ubuntu.

    What clean install means is they have iso's out there for each flavor of ubuntu (kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, etc). When you install Ubuntu you get the Unity interface and gnome. If you then install xubuntu you have both gnome and xserver packages/libraries installed. They do share some tools, but not all of them. So for a "clean install" you download the xubuntu iso - http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ and install it. Now what you would have is strictly xubuntu using xserver. You will still have some gnome as they are needed for some tools, but it isn't full blown. Is it really necessary at this point? I don't think so, but in the future if you install a new computer you should start with the specific flavor you want instead of Ubuntu first.

    I'm glad you got everything working the way you wanted it and are enjoying your introduction to xubuntu.
    Last edited by baphomet2; April 24th, 2014 at 05:28 PM.

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    Re: For Speed: install another desktop, or another distro?

    Enjoying xubuntu...
    Well, apparently I am, according to your post (vis a vis xubuntu being the same as xfce), only that I have't seen xubuntu since launching xfce

    Not that i mind, cos XFCE seems to be the 'thinking man's o/s'..... not happy.... then change it.

    The problem is: the scale and spread of knowledge.
    An expert in one field of computing can be an imbecile in another.

    Me... I started computing with IBM DOS, which then became MS DOS.
    I've developed data recovery software, and can explain to any willing listener, how information is stored on a disk.

    Yet.....
    ...... do I understand the linux world.
    Er.... no, I don't.

    I had previously thought of linux like DOS.
    First we had DOS.
    Then we had 'launch option lists'
    ie. instead of changing dir to paradox, and then launching paradox.... we simply launched paradox.

    Then we had Windows, which launched programs by clicking on a pictorial representation of a program (but that the click, merely enacted the typed command).

    I always thought of ubuntu like windows....... effectively a GUI to replace typed commands
    However, I guess it is more complicated than that

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    Re: For Speed: install another desktop, or another distro?

    You specs are more than enough to run Unity smoothly, you don't need a "light" desktop (it is a myth that Unity is super hungry on resources) If even with xfce you can only watch 480p on Youtube it is a graphic driver problem. Which driver do you use? For your card even the open driver supports vpdau decoding but you may have to get it from a ppa.
    Last edited by monkeybrain20122; April 27th, 2014 at 04:52 AM.

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    Re: For Speed: install another desktop, or another distro?

    I agree, that is more than enough of a system to run Unity. Sounds to me like hardware acceleration needs to be turned off in Firefox. Also, make a flash video full size, right click and go into flash settings and turn off hardware acceleration too.

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    Re: For Speed: install another desktop, or another distro?

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeybrain20122 View Post
    If even with xfce you can only watch 480p on Youtube it is a graphic driver problem. Which driver do you use? For your card even the open driver supports vpdau decoding but you may have to get it from a ppa.
    I ran:

    Code:
    lspci | grep -i vga
    This returned:

    Code:
    00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250]
    I believe this is describing the graphics chip and not the driver.

    Here is the relevant output of
    Code:
    sudo lshw
     
    description: Notebook
        product: eME644 (123456789)
        vendor: eMachines
        version: V1.07
        serial: LXNCW020081131E14E1601
        width: 64 bits
        capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 vsyscall32
        configuration: boot=normal chassis=notebook family=Type1Family sku=123456789 uuid=1E118C95-56AA-11E0-987D-1C7508F91871
      *-core
           description: Motherboard
           product: eME644
           vendor: eMachines
           physical id: 0
           version: V1.07
           serial: LXNCW020081131E14E1601
           slot: Base Board Chassis Location
         *-firmware
              description: BIOS
              vendor: eMachines
              physical id: 0
              version: V1.07
              date: 03/07/2011
              size: 1MiB
              capacity: 1984KiB
              capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppynec int13floppytoshiba int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int9keyboard int10video acpi usb
         *-memory
              description: System Memory
              physical id: 24
              slot: System board or motherboard
              size: 3GiB
              capacity: 3GiB
            *-bank:0
                 description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1066 MHz (0.9 ns)
                 product: NT1GC64BH4B0PS-CG
                 vendor: Nanya Technology
                 physical id: 0
                 serial: C1FAC819
                 slot: DIMM0
                 size: 1GiB
                 width: 16 bits
                 clock: 1066MHz (0.9ns)
            *-bank:1
                 description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1066 MHz (0.9 ns)
                 product: HMT325S6BFR8C-H9
                 vendor: Unknown
                 physical id: 1
                 serial: 6176FA8B
                 slot: DIMM1
                 size: 2GiB
                 width: 8 bits
                 clock: 1066MHz (0.9ns)
         *-cpu
              description: CPU
              product: AMD C-50 Processor
              vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
              physical id: 2d
              bus info: cpu@0
              version: AMD C-50 Processor
              serial: NotSupport
              slot: Socket FT1
              size: 1GHz
              capacity: 1GHz
              width: 64 bits
              clock: 100MHz
              capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter cpufreq
              configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
         *-cache:0
              description: L1 cache
              physical id: 2e
              slot: L1 Cache
              size: 128KiB
              capacity: 128KiB
              capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
         *-cache:1
              description: L2 cache
              physical id: 2f
              slot: L2 Cache
              size: 1MiB
              capacity: 1MiB
              capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
         *-pci:0
              description: Host bridge
              product: Family 14h Processor Root Complex
              vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
              physical id: 100
              bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
              version: 00
              width: 32 bits
              clock: 66MHz
            *-display
                 description: VGA compatible controller
                 product: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250]
                 vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
                 physical id: 1
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
                 version: 00
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
                 configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
                 resources: irq:42 memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:4000(size=256) memory:d0400000-d043ffff
            *-multimedia:0
                 description: Audio device
                 product: Wrestler HDMI Audio
                 vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
                 physical id: 1.1
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
                 version: 00
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
                 configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
                 resources: irq:40 memory:d0444000-d0447fff
    The conclusions are not clear to me.
    The Wrestler appears to be 32bit, while my PC is 64bit, but maybe this is not significant?
    Code:
    configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
    I'm out of my comfort zone here.
    Is this the correct driver?

    I loaded:
    http://driverscollection.com/?H=Rade...Linux%20x86_64

    and noted that the latest driver for 64bit linux is 13.12.

    Yet there is no mention of this driver on:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

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