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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenic23 View Post
    That wasn't the complaint at all, it was that local data was being sent out to third parties by default. If someone searched their computer for [their name]'s horrible obscene tentacle porn, third parties were being sent that information by default.
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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    That wasn't the complaint at all
    Not taken as one .

    If someone searched their computer for [their name]'s horrible obscene tentacle porn, third parties were being sent that information by default
    . Sounds like virus , browser, exploit and redirect territory and the risk taken by those who play in those neighborhoods . If a person was worried about such things Tor would be a better option than Unity. Amazon search results and recorded activity can be easily disabled and deleted anyway.
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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenic23 View Post
    That wasn't the complaint at all, it was that local data was being sent out to third parties by default. If someone searched their computer for [their name]'s horrible obscene tentacle porn, third parties were being sent that information by default.
    I agree that it is problematic to have it turned on by default (I always disable it when I set up Ubuntu for others) but at the same time I think a lot of people also overreact and those seem to be the same people who always have an axe to grind with Canonical anyway. If I were Canonical I would just make a big popup to prompt you to opt in (or even opt out) when you use the dash the first time (like vlc's warning about going online to search for album art etc). That way it will silent a lot of critics.

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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by craig10x View Post
    @ Dragonbite: Well, two things you should be aware of... the amazon shopping lens was not put in to be a money maker for ubuntu/canonical but rather to provide some financial support for ubuntu's development...and the option is given to turn it off, of course...
    That is only Amazon but the dash searches a lot of places that don't bring Canonical a dime. e.g wikipedia. So while the monetary consideration may play a role at least for some vendors like Amazon, it could be a genuine design goal though having it on by default is bone headed IMO, I don't know how much money they make from amazon that way but IMO it probably doesn't make up for the good will they have lost.

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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogs Hair View Post
    Sounds like virus , browser, exploit and redirect territory and the risk taken by those who play in those neighborhoods . If a person was worried about such things Tor would be a better option than Unity. Amazon search results and recorded activity can be easily disabled and deleted anyway.
    I am not aware of any virus that would tell you how to switch it off in the settings. If you don't want search to be sent to the internet just turn it off.

    As for Tor, I don't know, I read that you actually arouse interests with things like that because the mere using of these technologies suggest that you may have something to hide,therefore some privacy activist whose name I forget momentarily made a point that he uses gmail and google for almost everything. It kind of makes sense. If the street is full of police the sure way to get attentions would be to go out of your way to avoid them because that makes you look suspicious. If you blend in with everyone else you wouldn't get singled out.

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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    I am not aware of any virus that would tell you how to switch it off in the settings.
    Not suggesting there is , the types of things I wrote about can be more common on the darker streets of the internet rather than the Amazon . I see no reason to use Tor at all based on my internet use and location although I have installed out of curiosity.
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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    Partly tall-poppy syndrome and partly because some people thought a six-monthly distribution would stay exactly the same as it was in 2005.

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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    People forget that the "hardcore" Linux group has hated Ubuntu since the beginning. They hated Ubuntu long before Unity, and for a lot of reasons. The RedHat and SUSE people hated Ubuntu because it was free and they thought we had the mentality that Linux wasn't worth paying for. The server people hated Ubuntu because it sucked for servers compared to the real choices. A lot of Linux users hated Ubuntu because it was too easy to use, and it would draw in plain ol' users that would water down the Linux experience. It had a graphical installation, for crying out loud. The biggest problem was that it was run by a commercial company, and some people were mad that it contained non-free stuff and made installing proprietary drivers easy.

    As for Unity, the Linux world looked at that as Canonical being a Lone Ranger and intentionally widening the divide. That, plus the fact that it kind of sucks.
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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    I can understand that some people hate Ubuntu, as with anything. Me, I personally like it, and do not worry about what others think. I am sure that even people that hate Ubuntu would agree it is better than using a fully proprietary system. There is a thing called free choice, it allows you to choose yes or no to something. In other words, as others have said, if you dont like it, dont use it. I have used many distros and still have trouble making my mind up between Mint and Ubuntu because I like them both so much. And as for people thinking that it is too simple, if you are advanced, go hack the configuration files. You can change anything you want, install KDE, Xfce, LXDE or whatever. I will always be a strong supporter of the use of Linux, regardless of distro, because it advocates the use of open source and customizing your computer to be the way YOU want it to be. I have made some bad choices in the past, like earlier today breaking glib6 and rendering my PC unbootable by using dpkg --force-all during a dist-upgrade. With mistakes comes learning, like I will never do that again. Ubuntu is a great OS for first time Linux users, and if others want people to use Linux, and they would not be able to start without Ubuntu, why not start with Ubuntu.


    And now the stroy of how Ubuntu got me started on Linux.
    I randomly searched "free operating system" on YouTube back in early 2010. I found this odd thing called Ubuntu, and I was shocked that it was free and actually existed. I immediately began downloading the CD. I booted it later and found out that it also had Firefox, my favorite browser, which I had no idea ran on Ubuntu. I put the CD aside and forgot about till Windows died. I used it to copy years of my family's pictures (it was the only PC) and documents off the esixtant since 2001/2002 XP install. Shortly afterwards my parents got a new laptop becauase they realized that keeping everything on one PC with no backup is bad. (See below for how horrid the bloated XP was) Later that week I made a custom NimbleX disk on their site and downloaded Linux Mint 9 XFCE. I immediately loved Linux Mint and installed it right away. I have been using Linux and Windows XP since then in a dual boot. If my scanner worked on Linux, windows XP would be retired for good. Ever since then I have constantly read on the internet and gotten a few books about Linux/Unix. I am always trying distros (I havd a 500GB HSB HDD that has like 30+ Live installs) and trying to help out others with Linux and Windows. The reason why I joined Ubuntu Forums is because I needed a place to use my knowledge to help people who need it. I probabally will post extremely often for a few days and disappear for a few weeks, like I do on Tomshardware. I am usually busy and when I have free time it is consumed by editing Video, animating with Blender or Synfig, downloading and testing random distros, using the testing to get a idea of how to make my custom distro better, and helping people on here and Tomshardware. I want to be a systems administrator (for Linux) or repair/build computers. I would always offer Ubuntu (and Linux in general) as a option to those who would buy computers from me. I have for a while (since 2012) been interested in starting something like System76, which I learned existed less than a year ago. My first laptop will DEFINITELY be from System76.

    If anyone from System76 reads this, I want to let you know you are doing a great thing, as well as other manufacturers who have Linux as a option.


    About the XP install...
    Let me tell you after installing XP from scratch and killing all the OEM junk it booted in under 30 seconds instead of 10 minutes. OMG I remember the XP boot screen sitting there for three minutes then a blank blue screen for two minutes, then Welcome for a few more then the desktop which was froze until the taskbar appeared a few minutes later. Finally startup programs fromt he startup folder began slowly popping up untill there was like 13 windows open. BTW: one of those was SoapsystemPRO and the other Condiut toolbar updater. It also used to have the ADS NOT BY THIS SITE virus. IT SUCKED! There was always bluecreens plugging and unplugging USB drives at random also. I was happy that I was forced to reinstall to say the least. I mean it was 58GB of 60GB of the HDD used before, after 8GB (28GB with pictures). Now I have my WD Green 500GB internal drive, and my
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    Re: Why does everyone hate Ubuntu?

    *Preferring* one Linux distribution, or *preferring* one desktop environment, are both legitimate positions.

    But, working up enough emotion about the minor differences between the major Linux interfaces to merit using the word "hate" is something I'd expect from a 12-year-old.

    Linux is free, in both senses of the word. If you do not like Unity, or Gnome, or KDE, or XFCE, or whatever, consider that many people worked very hard to *give* it to you. It is a gift. Be grateful, not whiney.

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