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    Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    Hello
    This is my second problem after installing LM16 MATE.
    Here was my first JIC they are related which I suspect they are being a xp refugee!
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2200144

    Here is my hardware

    Code:
    computer                  
        description: Desktop Computer
        product: Dimension 2350
        vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
        version: A02
        serial: [REMOVED]
        width: 32 bits
        capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3 smp-1.4 smp
        configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop cpus=1 uuid=[REMOVED]
      *-core
           description: Motherboard
           product: 07W080
           vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
           physical id: 0
           version: A00
           serial: [REMOVED]
         *-firmware
              description: BIOS
              vendor: Mitac International
              physical id: 1
              version: A02
              date: 03/24/2003
              size: 128KiB
              capacity: 192KiB
              capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
         *-cpu
              description: CPU
              product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz
              vendor: Intel Corp.
              physical id: 5
              bus info: cpu@0
              version: 15.2.7
              slot: Socket 478
              size: 2200MHz
              capacity: 2800MHz
              width: 32 bits
              clock: 400MHz
              capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe pebs bts cid
              configuration: id=0
            *-cache:0
                 description: L1 cache
                 physical id: 9
                 slot: Internal Cache
                 size: 8KiB
                 capacity: 8KiB
                 capabilities: synchronous internal write-back unified
            *-cache:1
                 description: L2 cache
                 physical id: a
                 slot: External Cache
                 size: 512KiB
                 capacity: 512KiB
                 capabilities: synchronous external write-back unified
         *-memory
              description: System Memory
              physical id: 20
              slot: System board or motherboard
              size: 1GiB
              capacity: 2GiB
            *-bank:0
                 description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous 266 MHz (3.8 ns)
                 product: None
                 vendor: None
                 physical id: 0
                 serial: [REMOVED]
                 slot: A0
                 size: 512MiB
                 width: 64 bits
                 clock: 266MHz (3.8ns)
            *-bank:1
                 description: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous 266 MHz (3.8 ns)
                 product: None
                 vendor: None
                 physical id: 1
                 serial: [REMOVED]
                 slot: A1
                 size: 512MiB
                 width: 64 bits
                 clock: 266MHz (3.8ns)
         *-pci
              description: Host bridge
              product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
              vendor: Intel Corporation
              physical id: 100
              bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
              version: 03
              width: 32 bits
              clock: 33MHz
              configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
              resources: irq:0 memory:e8000000-ebffffff
            *-display
                 description: VGA compatible controller
                 product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 2
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
                 version: 03
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
                 configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
                 resources: irq:16 memory:e0000000-e7ffffff memory:ee000000-ee07ffff
            *-usb:0
                 description: USB controller
                 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1d
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: uhci bus_master
                 configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
                 resources: irq:16 ioport:d800(size=32)
            *-usb:1
                 description: USB controller
                 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1d.1
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: uhci bus_master
                 configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
                 resources: irq:19 ioport:d000(size=32)
            *-usb:2
                 description: USB controller
                 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1d.2
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: uhci bus_master
                 configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
                 resources: irq:18 ioport:d400(size=32)
            *-usb:3
                 description: USB controller
                 product: 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1d.7
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm ehci bus_master cap_list
                 configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
                 resources: irq:23 memory:ee080000-ee0803ff
            *-pci
                 description: PCI bridge
                 product: 82801 PCI Bridge
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1e
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
                 version: 82
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
                 resources: ioport:c000(size=4096) memory:ec000000-edffffff memory:40000000-400fffff
               *-communication
                    description: Modem
                    product: BCM4212 v.90 56k modem
                    vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                    physical id: 4
                    bus info: pci@0000:01:04.0
                    version: 02
                    width: 32 bits
                    clock: 33MHz
                    capabilities: pm generic bus_master cap_list
                    configuration: driver=serial latency=32
                    resources: irq:16 memory:ed002000-ed002fff ioport:c000(size=16)
               *-network
                    description: Ethernet interface
                    product: BCM4401 100Base-T
                    vendor: Broadcom Corporation
                    physical id: 9
                    bus info: pci@0000:01:09.0
                    logical name: eth0
                    version: 01
                    serial: [REMOVED]
                    size: 100Mbit/s
                    capacity: 100Mbit/s
                    width: 32 bits
                    clock: 33MHz
                    capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
                    configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=b44 driverversion=2.0 duplex=full ip=[REMOVED] latency=32 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
                    resources: irq:17 memory:ed000000-ed001fff memory:40000000-40003fff
            *-isa
                 description: ISA bridge
                 product: 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1f
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: isa bus_master
                 configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
                 resources: irq:0
            *-ide
                 description: IDE interface
                 product: 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1f.1
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: ide bus_master
                 configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
                 resources: irq:18 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:f000(size=16) memory:40100000-401003ff
            *-serial UNCLAIMED
                 description: SMBus
                 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1f.3
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 configuration: latency=0
                 resources: ioport:500(size=32)
            *-multimedia
                 description: Multimedia audio controller
                 product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 1f.5
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.5
                 version: 02
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
                 configuration: driver=snd_intel8x0 latency=0
                 resources: irq:17 ioport:e000(size=256) ioport:e400(size=64) memory:ee081000-ee0811ff memory:ee082000-ee0820ff
         *-scsi:0
              physical id: 0
              logical name: scsi0
              capabilities: emulated
            *-disk
                 description: ATA Disk
                 product: WDC WD800JB-00JJ
                 vendor: Western Digital
                 physical id: 0.0.0
                 bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
                 logical name: /dev/sda
                 version: 05.0
                 serial: [REMOVED]
                 size: 74GiB (80GB)
                 capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
                 configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512 signature=000b0f0b
               *-volume:0
                    description: Linux filesystem partition
                    vendor: Linux
                    physical id: 1
                    bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
                    logical name: /dev/sda1
                    logical name: /boot
                    version: 1.0
                    serial: [REMOVED]
                    size: 243MiB
                    capacity: 243MiB
                    capabilities: primary bootable extended_attributes ext2 initialized
                    configuration: filesystem=ext2 modified=2014-01-17 17:17:11 mount.fstype=ext2 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl state=mounted
               *-volume:1
                    description: Extended partition
                    physical id: 2
                    bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
                    logical name: /dev/sda2
                    size: 74GiB
                    capacity: 74GiB
                    capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
                  *-logicalvolume
                       description: Linux LVM Physical Volume partition
                       physical id: 5
                       logical name: /dev/sda5
                       serial: [REMOVED]
                       size: 74GiB
                       capacity: 74GiB
                       capabilities: multi lvm2
         *-scsi:1
              physical id: 2
              logical name: scsi1
              capabilities: emulated
            *-cdrom:0
                 description: DVD-RAM writer
                 product: iHAP222   W
                 vendor: ATAPI
                 physical id: 0.0.0
                 bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
                 logical name: /dev/cdrom
                 logical name: /dev/sr0
                 version: 7L05
                 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
                 configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
            *-cdrom:1
                 description: CD-R/CD-RW writer
                 product: CD-RW  CRX216E
                 vendor: SONY
                 physical id: 0.1.0
                 bus info: scsi@1:0.1.0
                 logical name: /dev/sr1
                 version: PD01
                 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw
                 configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
    Overnight the computer of couse went to sleep and wouldnt wake up by pressing any keys on the keybord or moving clicking the mouse. so i used the power buton and it made all the noises that a working computer makes but no video at all waited for about a minute still no video.
    Did a power off
    Powered on after LM logo had black screen and mouse pointer no visible login screen. Waited moving the mouse around an I noticed that in certain places it would change to a hand so I clicked and moved it around some more was able to get the login to appear with a green tint then after some further clicking and moving around it appeared to be normal was able to log in. Apperently it is there it is just not rendered.

    So now I have tried suspend and cold boot several times.
    Suspend=No video Consistantly! I mean nothing the monitor shows "no signal"
    Cold boot=my "mouse trick" works some of the time.

    here is my xorg.conf
    Code:
    Section "Device"
        Identifier "Intel Graphics"
        Driver "intel"
        Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
    EndSection
    Last edited by WinXpRefugee; January 20th, 2014 at 06:48 AM.
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    I don't know about Mint - i know it isn't using the "new" gnome with Unity, but I know that the 845 won't run Unity. There have also been problems reported in the past with the 845, with graphics support being minimal becuase of that GPU. I don't know if any of this has changed or not, nor do I know how it might affect Mint. Best bet at this point is to probably google saerch tihe following in the search string:

    linux mint 16 intal 845 graphics

    and see what comes up.

    EDIT: If mint 16 is using compizx by default, I don't think the 845 will work with that either. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
    Last edited by squakie; January 20th, 2014 at 07:36 AM.
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    Crap, I guess I posted in the wrong place!!!
    Thanks Elfy
    I hate to vent, but will The mint forum not as helpful as ubuntu forum for my problems.
    So far mintforum 0-1 Ubuntu forum 1-0.
    I may have to get better hardware that will run unity!!!!!
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    I hate to vent, but will The mint forum not as helpful as ubuntu forum for my problems.
    Apparently so

    I may have to get better hardware that will run unity!!!!!
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    Elfy,
    Thanks for your Response,

    I am getting ready for the XPocalypse this April 2014.
    As my sig say's been using linux since 1/14/2014.
    I do computer work/service as a hobby and need a distro that I can swich my xp people to.
    It is getting harder and harder to fix xp.
    Most of them run similar hardware to this machine -->something you can buy at walmart in 2007 (LOL)
    I found that most of the people that I help with their computer only use it for web and web based email, storing digital photos and as one of the people I help put it I cant loose my "M PEE Number 3's".
    Maybe some low end games like card games Spider solitare ect.
    They really don't need the power they have but hey think they need MORE?
    Most of them are like me, working people and don't have the $$$ to just go buy an new computer or upgrade to the latest windows ver.
    So I had a good freind who can use a computer he brought me his nuked (typical malware virus stuff)
    Dell 2350 P4 1GB 80GBHD running XPP32SP3
    Thought he would be a good test case see if real "non geek" user could live with Linux.

    Installed Zorin liked the look and feel but, Not enough hardware power to display "windows decorations"?

    Installed Ubuntu 13.10 again
    Not enough hardware power to display GUI properly things missing not rendered.

    Loved it on my multicore machine running from the Live DVD!
    Since then someone suggested Lubuntu on the same Dell and that it works

    Tried Xubuntu from the live dvd it looked fine and seemed to work well.

    I read a post (Some forum) about a guy kind of does tech support like I do.He set up his Sextigenarian grandma on Mint-MATE, and some other adventurous XP users with glowing results.

    That is why I picked Mint I have had problems and have not got alot out of the support forums
    I need to get adept enough to support the people I help.
    If this works out well I can really help alot of people.
    I took the Dell 2350 running Linux MINT Petra - MATE to him January 18, 2014 and he is using it But I am told I should have used LTS distro by another forum.

    I am unsure what to do the forum support here has been a better experience for me.
    Most of the machines that I "fix" will probably not have the processing power to run Ubuntu GUI
    Would love suggestions

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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    I would SERIOUSLY consider downloading and trying either lubuntu or even better yet xubuntu. Xubuntu I beleive is the "thinest". Either way, you won't have to worry about Unity - lubuntu and xubuntu use different desktop managers. Since you like the support here (nothing against Mint - I also have a Mint 16 installation on a different box), perhaps you'd like to find an ubuntu flavor knowing you'll get support here. The links for downloading lubuntu and xubuntu are at the top of this page under the "Ubuntu Community" option (on the bottom part of the orange colored header). Just a thought.......

    EDIT: I should add, in answer to your question at the end of your last post, the xubuntu will run great on older/smaller hardware (one of my systems is an old Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop nad it won't run "normal" Ubuntu but runs xubuntu like a champ. There are also smaller, more lightweight linux distributions out there for small, old hardware. I personally have never tried them, so I can't comment on them A couple of the names I remember seeing mentioned in posts here on the ubuntu forums include DSL (Damn Small Linux) and puupylinux. Again, I have firsthand knowledge of either of those or any of the other very lightwieght distribtuions. Someone else will, I'm sure, post more on some of those options for you here.
    Last edited by squakie; January 20th, 2014 at 10:05 AM.
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    Squakie,
    Thanks a bunch for the advice,
    I am learning alot the advice I am getting seems to direct me tword xubuntu
    Typical machine I seem to be working with was built 2006-2010 seems that that is the right distro for that era machine.
    Do you think that is a good distro to start on, will the things I learn there apply to other distributions.
    Since my end goal is to be able to be as geeky with linux as I am now with windows. (eg I can see the screen in my mind and tell you what to click)
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    Squakie,
    Thanks a bunch for the advice,
    I am learning alot the advice I am getting seems to direct me tword xubuntu
    Typical machine I seem to be working with was built 2006-2010 seems that that is the right distro for that era machine.
    Do you think that is a good distro to start on, will the things I learn there apply to other distributions.
    Since my end goal is to be able to be as geeky with linux as I am now with windows. (eg I can see the screen in my mind and tell you what to click)
    Whoha! I am getting way off Topic. (sorry)
    I am going to stick it out with mint for a week or so if I cant get the suspend and cold boot problem fixed then I will switch to Xubuntu.
    Any Ideas on my issue with the susspend Cold boot problem!
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    Re: Suspend=Fail & Coldboot problem LM16 Intel 82845G

    on a laptop, suspend and resume are a hit and miss. one thing i would check is the size of the swap partition. to suspend I *think* is like hibernating in that in those cases swap must normally be twie the size of physical memory with a little more added for overhead. in a normal environment swap can be kept small, but in the case of suspend/hibernate on a laptop, it at least used to be that physical memory was just copied to/from swap with no regard to what was actually being used (I'm going back a LONG way here, so someone else can tell you if it has changed in that situation). I know there are also ways at least in some cases to restart the xserver, etc., on wake up. I really don't remember much about that.

    The choice of which version of ubuntu ("normal/lubuntu or xubunt) is really dependant on any given hardware configuation. It's possible a ten year old platform could run todays ubuntu depending on memory, graphics, etc.. There is probably a minimum cpui requirement (I've never looked), and while an older cpu might fall in those requirements, the actual performance of the OS and espcially the graphical presentation may be, shall we say, less than desireable. But there are also extremely inexpensive brand new EDIT: LAPTOPS that I wouldn't even attempt to install "normal" ubuntu on - I would still go with one of the lighter flavors. The only true way to to tell is check the version of ubuntu you want to install to see what its minimum requirements are, then just try from there. As I mentioned above, there are systems that might meet the requirements, but the cpu speed, the bus spedd, the memory speed, etc., might result in a most unsatisfactory experience!
    Last edited by squakie; January 20th, 2014 at 12:58 PM.
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