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    Partitioning, dual boot

    i tried to install ubuntu 13.10 ie i tried for dual boot with my win 7 but could not

    i hav 2 hdds
    1 80 gb
    2 250 g

    i hav partitioned them in such a way that nw i hav 5 local disc
    1 localdisc C - 74gb
    2 local disc E - 48gb
    3 localdisc F - 48gb
    4 localdisc G - 48gb
    5 localdisc H - 86gb (full empty kept for ubuntu)

    then i deleted the partition 86gb and it showed unallocated space then boot into live usb i tried to
    see if ter was any partition i can select but there aren't any i saw this
    only this

    and this


    i dont see my 86 gb unallocated space
    then i tried this
    then this

    pls help me

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    sooraj2; Hi !

    We are here to help !
    Your imaging did not take, however, as we prefer to look at things from ubuntu's point of view;
    Boot the InstallMedium -> try ubuntu and activate a terminal:
    Post back the out puts of terminal codes: -between code tags -
    Code:
    sudo fdisk -lu
    sudo parted -l
    sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print
    lsblk -f
    "fdisk" is applicable to the leagacy partitioning schemes, else use "gdisk" to see GPT partitioning.
    code tag tutorial:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...8#post12776168

    a tale will be told
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    Happy ubuntu'n !

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    sooraj2; Hi !

    We are here to help !
    Your imaging did not take, however, as we prefer to look at things from ubuntu's point of view;
    Boot the InstallMedium -> try ubuntu and activate a terminal:
    Post back the out puts of terminal codes: -between code tags -
    Code:
    sudo fdisk -lu
    sudo parted -l
    sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print
    lsblk -f
    "fdisk" is applicable to the leagacy partitioning schemes, else use "gdisk" to see GPT partitioning.
    code tag tutorial:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...8#post12776168
    a tale will be told
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -lu
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0xcc29cc29
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1   *        2048   156299263    78148608    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x8d5afae6
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdb1              63   488395119   244197528+  42  SFS
    
    Disk /dev/sdc: 16.0 GB, 16008609792 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1946 cylinders, total 31266816 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0a9da53a
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdc1   *          32    31266815    15633392    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$

    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
    Model: ATA ST380211AS (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
     1      1049kB  80.0GB  80.0GB  primary  ntfs         boot
    
    
    Model: ATA ST3250318AS (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdb: 250GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
     1      32.3kB  250GB  250GB  primary
    
    
    Model: SanDisk Cruzer Pop (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdc: 16.0GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
     1      16.4kB  16.0GB  16.0GB  primary  fat32        boot, lba
    
    
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print
    Model: ATA ST380211AS (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 156301488s
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start  End         Size        Type     File system  Flags
     1      2048s  156299263s  156297216s  primary  ntfs         boot
    
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsblk -f
    NAME   FSTYPE LABEL MOUNTPOINT
    sda                 
    └─sda1              
    sdb                 
    ├─sdb1              
    ├─sdb2              
    ├─sdb3              
    ├─sdb4              
    └─sdb5              
    sdc                 
    └─sdc1              /cdrom
    sr0                 
    loop0               /rofs
    loop1               
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsblk -f
    and this time i used mini partition tool to partion my 86gb to fat32 stiill wont wrk

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    sooraj2; Not good for the home team.

    /dev/sda1 * 2048 156299263 78148608 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    Houston, we have a problem.
    The formatting on the hard disk is HPFS, that is proprietary to Windows. Ubuntu will not touch it.

    There is a means to convert HPFS back to basic, and that process is risky to data loss to the extreme.
    That process is above my pay grade, others will have to advise as Window's is not my thing.

    The good thing is ->
    there are solutions
    THE current(cy) in Documentation:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages

    Happy ubuntu'n !

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    sooraj2; Not good for the home team.


    Houston, we have a problem.
    The formatting on the hard disk is HPFS, that is proprietary to Windows. Ubuntu will not touch it.

    There is a means to convert HPFS back to basic, and that process is risky to data loss to the extreme.
    That process is above my pay grade, others will have to advise as Window's is not my thing.

    The good thing is ->
    there are solutions
    wow tats a very quick reply
    ok Bashing-om i really dont ant to loose my data so is ter any way without loosing data

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    ok ill revert back to ntfs then ...........?????
    wat to do

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    sooraj2; Hey !

    I wish it were that simple. Like I say that formatting will have to be changed to "basic" . It is doable and I think I have seen the procedure to do so on this forum.
    May I suggest ya search this forum for Mark Phelps and/or grahammechanical -they are the gurus - for their threads in this respect.
    Else; await others to pick up this thread and offer much better advise.

    I am totally not qualified to assist you in this matter.

    some things I just do not want to know
    THE current(cy) in Documentation:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages

    Happy ubuntu'n !

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    ok
    but is ter any way i can change my partition from ntfs to ext4
    if yes can u pls tell me ???? if its done will it detect in ubuntu ???

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    sooraj2; Well,

    What might be a viable solution is to back up the files on sdb (2nd hard drive), and install ubuntu onto that 2nd hard drive.
    SFS == A shared-disk filesystem, I would not expect any difficulties in reformatting the drive, but if it is a shared drive, a lot of reconfiguration would be in the prospect.
    In addition, One would have to pay close attention to how/where Windows is booting and how you would want to boot the respective operating systems.

    If you so choose to install ubuntu onto the 2nd hard drive would not effect Window's in the least - if you are happy to select the 2nd drive at boot (bios), will not even have to touch Window's boot code. Just Make double sure that grub (ubuntu's boot loader code) is installed onto the 2nd hard drive's Master Boot Record sector.

    The safe way to insure all this takes place correctly is just to remove the drive that Windows is installed on.

    There are options and
    the choosing is yours
    Last edited by Bashing-om; January 19th, 2014 at 08:06 PM. Reason: bios boot priority
    THE current(cy) in Documentation:
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    Happy ubuntu'n !

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    Re: hi help pls complete newbe on ubuntu

    but i dont wand to loose my data on 2nd hdd 250gb i hav a lot o imp personal info in it
    and i hav made a local disc seperately for installing ubuntu but i thing ter is no way i can get ubuntu in my second hdd 86 gb partition

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