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    The state of flash

    I have heard that flash support for Linux has been deprecated. Any thoughts on this? Is the general plan to move to gnash? Or something else perhaps?

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    Re: The state of flash

    Google Chrome (not Chromium) has the pepperflash which does always provide the latest flash (they have an agreement with adobe for that)....that is what i use myself...
    Firefox 27 (out in February) will have the Shumway plug in but the firefox fans tell me that it doesn't work up to snuff as of yet...

    The adobe flash plug in you get in ubuntu restricted extras is over 2 years old and will only get security updates for a few more years...adobe no longer makes a flash for linux other then the agreement to provide it through Chrome...

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    Re: The state of flash

    Seems Adobe likes shooting themselves in the foot. SteamOS is coming out and Debian Linux will have a sizeable share of the market. Just wait until professionals finally discover GIMP.
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    Post Re: The state of flash

    Quote Originally Posted by craig10x View Post
    Google Chrome (not Chromium) has the pepperflash which does always provide the latest flash (they have an agreement with adobe for that)....that is what i use myself...
    Firefox 27 (out in February) will have the Shumway plug in but the firefox fans tell me that it doesn't work up to snuff as of yet...

    The adobe flash plug in you get in ubuntu restricted extras is over 2 years old and will only get security updates for a few more years...adobe no longer makes a flash for linux other then the agreement to provide it through Chrome...
    I found as did craig10x, would that Adobe Systems ran Flash Player for LinUX at least as far as 11.7.700.nnn-LTS (Adobe® is providing long-term support for Flash Player 11.7 for Microsoft® Windows® 6-up and Apple® MacOS® X™ 10.7-up) rather than stalling it at 11.2.202.nnn; this way, users unable to utilize Google® Chrome™ would still have access to current shockwave-flash IFrames. (I'm running Chromium™ with the PepperFlash™ player, and found that the PPAPI version of Flash Player 11.9.900.nnn performs as advertised, at least at SingSnap® and at various Google® Services.)
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    Re: The state of flash

    flash is a mess. While Chrome has up to date flash it is crippled. You can't access drmed contents with it (google videos, Amazon videos for examples) and outside those most websites would work with flash 11.2 anyway.

    As for drmed contents, there are work arounds for Firefox that won't work with Chrome. There is hal (which has a ppa for Saucy and Trusty) and there is also an option in Firefox to install Windows flash through pipelight (I suggest switching to it only when needed with something like galternatives ,--or the update-alternatives command,--as it is not as smooth as native flash when the latter does work) and this won't work in Chrome/Chromium starting April when google bans all NNAPI plugins from these browsers.

    Finally there are non flash options to access popular sites like Youtube, Vimeo etc with greasemonkey scripts like Viewtube and again this won't work on Chrome/Chromium after April. (there are also standalone Youtube viewers like minitube, so Youtube is the least of the problem even though it always gets the most attentions,--flash 11.2 also works and there is html5 option for many videos.)

    So there are still more options for flash with Firefox than with Chrome.
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    Re: The state of flash

    so what will be the solution? flash stuff won't work on linux or will work slow/crippled? so basically it will only work on windows then?
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    Re: The state of flash

    I have enabled Shumway on the FF Nightly Browser and seems to work pretty well and I hope it has a future . The plug-in indicator that appears in the address bar when media is running offers the option to allow Adobe flash or not .

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    Re: The state of flash

    What about archived files of types .swf and .flv? Will they become unreadable at some point? Is is safe to assume there will be a legacy player for those files in the future?

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