Re: My thoughts on Ubuntu 12.04
These goals are mutually exclusive. No possible OS can satisfy your requirements because your requirements are incompatible and therefore impossible to satisfy. You are thinking of OSes as if they are simple things that "break" in simple ways, whereas they are actually extremely complex things and will break into smithereens. The reason that proprietary OSes do not allow us to do diddly-squat with them is precisely because the vendors who produce them do not want to have to pick up the pieces of our mess. And the reason that Linux allows us to break the OS into a million splinters is because when we are given the freedom of something like Linux, we must also accept the responsibility to own the consequences of our actions. That's simply the deal with freedom.
Originally Posted by ballistic turtle
I disagree. You may not appreciate the command line, but it's inaccurate to make such blanket statements and project your own needs onto others. The command line is the foundation of Linux. Always has been and always will be. It is immeasurably more elegant and powerful than any GUI and to say that it is unnecessary because "99% of things can be done through the GUI" is like saying we don't need sports cars because anyone can see that an RV can get you from A to B. Windows may have done away with the command line, but that's one of the many reasons that Windows sucks. In my case, Linux in its pure command line form has given dozens of ancient and otherwise obsolete machines valuable second lives. Instead of ending up in junkyards polluting our environment with e-waste, they are doing valuable duty as network attached storage, torrent servers, print servers, VPN servers, exceptionally secure firewall/gateways... the list is almost endless. This is possible only because such machines don't have to sustain the increasingly absurd resource demands of modern GUIs. Far from being the friendly face that you think they are, for many critical and everyday applications, the modern GUI is a pointless and useless pig painted up in lipstick and mascara.
With the CLI thing, UI's have moved away from relying on it, and 99% of things can be done through the GUI.
Linux, in all its distros and manifestations, has a learning curve. There's no getting around this fact. Success in surmounting this learning curve is determined by commitment and motivation. All else, including breakages, trouble finding apps, frustration with the command line—all the usual culprits to which people attribute their lack of success—are secondary and derivative to these two prime determinants.
I was trying to get away from Windows (had grown tired of it, and wanted something new) so I found Ubuntu and decided to try it. Unfortunately, so far, it hasn't really worked
If you come to Linux because you are sick of proprietary OS's failings or because you can't stand being treated like a prospective criminal in spite of having already paid for their crippleware, or because you are fed up with having to live within the confines of their glorified jail cells, then these are big motivations, and such users almost always make the transition. The most inspiring example of such a user whom I've ever had the privilege of helping was this one. On the other hand, for those who are just shopping for OSes with no specific reason—they just want a change—the motivation is, frankly, not very high, and the rate of success is likewise not very high either. And those who aren't even shoppers, but tourists who just want to drop in, have a peek, and then go home—these users almost never make the transition.
Now, before I'm accused of condescension or elitism, I want to say that there's nothing wrong with shopping or touring. They are all respectable time-honoured activities and our lives would be greatly diminished were they to disappear. I am not judging these activities, nor the depth of commitment or motivation behind them. I am merely stating what I perceive to be a fact: that success in transitioning to Linux is inseparably correlated with commitment and motivation.
If you judge your own motivation to be low, then it's best to stick with Windows. The frustrations to learning a new and complex OS are just not worth it if you are considering Linux only because you are tired of Windows.
Last edited by DuckHook; December 11th, 2013 at 08:34 PM.
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