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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    I hope the mods are OK with the latest title change.

    It's clear to me now that step #1 in this endeavor needs to be defining the difference between what is now "classic" and the "flashback" sessions.

    My personal focus will remain on "Flashback (no effects)" but I welcome comments about the other sessions
    No problems here with the title change.

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Something I had not noticed until Trusty is how much they've improved the dependencies for 'gnome-tweak-tool'.

    In Precise it required installing all of this:

    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-1.0
    gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 gir1.2-folks-0.6
    gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gir1.2-gee-1.0 gir1.2-gjsdbus-1.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0
    gir1.2-json-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0
    gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0
    gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gjs gnome-contacts gnome-icon-theme-full gnome-shell
    gnome-shell-common gnome-themes-standard gnome-tweak-tool libcaribou-common
    libcaribou0 libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-1.0-common libcogl-common
    libcogl-pango0 libcogl9 libgjs0c libmozjs185-1.0 libmutter0 mutter-common
    0 upgraded, 35 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    Need to get 16.8 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 38.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
    In Trusty 'gnome-tweak-tool' only installs this:

    Installed the following packages:
    gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 (3.8.0-1ubuntu1)
    gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 (3.8.4-0ubuntu1)
    gnome-shell-common (3.8.4-0ubuntu5)
    gnome-tweak-tool (3.8.1-0ubuntu1)
    So I definitely need to add 'gnome-tweak-tool' as an optional package to install

    That makes many of the general theming tweaks much easier for those who prefer using the GUI

    Just installing 'gnome-panel' is the easiest and lightest way to get started:

    Installed the following packages:
    alacarte (3.10.0-1)
    gir1.2-gconf-2.0 (3.2.6-0ubuntu1)
    gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 (1:3.6.2-0ubuntu15)
    gnome-applets (3.5.92-0ubuntu3)
    gnome-applets-data (3.5.92-0ubuntu3)
    gnome-media (3.4.0-1ubuntu1)
    gnome-panel (1:3.6.2-0ubuntu15)
    gnome-panel-data (1:3.6.2-0ubuntu15)
    gnome-session-flashback (1:3.6.2-0ubuntu15)
    gstreamer0.10-gconf (0.10.31-3+nmu1ubuntu3)
    indicator-applet (12.10.2+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1)
    indicator-applet-complete (12.10.2+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu1)
    libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 (3.0.0-1ubuntu1)
    libpanel-applet-4-0 (1:3.6.2-0ubuntu15)
    metacity (1:2.34.13-0ubuntu2)
    notification-daemon (0.7.6-1)
    Then optionally 'indicator-applet', 'indicator-applet-session', 'gnome-tweak-tool', or 'shiki-colors-metacity-theme' as desired.

    Update notifications now show up in the "window list" applet so no tweak is needed in that regard.

    With the ability to add 'gnome-tweak-tool' w/o a bunch of bloat that leaves very few "tweaks" that actually require the use of the CLI:

    #1: Moving the window-management buttons back to the right:

    Code:
    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout :minimize,maximize,close
    #2: Disabling the overlay-scrollbars:

    Code:
    echo export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 >> ~/.xprofile
    #3: Possibly disabling the Firefox and/or Thunderbird global menu add-ons???????????? I'm unsure about this. I need to play around with fresh profiles and check that out.

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    #2: Disabling the overlay-scrollbars:

    Code:
    echo export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 >> ~/.xprofile
    Code:
    gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    Code:
    gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal
    Thanks, I'll check that out

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    Thanks, I'll check that out
    If You go with dconf-editor on that address You can choose from 3 different settings, or You can list that switch with the same tool as above.

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    If You go with dconf-editor on that address You can choose from 3 different settings, or You can list that switch with the same tool as above.
    Right, I need all the help I can get

    I've just been trying to document the deprecation of gconf:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...4#post12850034

    It may seem anal to look backwards but users will ask silly questions and it's beneficial to have a well documented answer easily at hand

    BTW once I'm satisfied that documentation of the history of the "gnome-panel + metacity" GNOME 3 session is complete enough I need to do some house-keeping on my test box so I can move ahead effectively in Trusty testing. I could really use a couple of new hard drives and some other new hardware, but dental bills and vet bills make that impossible ATM.
    Last edited by kansasnoob; November 17th, 2013 at 10:10 AM.

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    I've been searching w/o success, is anyone aware of an upstream bug report requesting that window management buttons be movable in 'gnome-tweak-tool'?

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    As compared to the past metacity settings have now been totally deprecated from gconf:

    no_apps_metacity_trusty.png

    I think that's a good thing

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    If You go with dconf-editor on that address You can choose from 3 different settings, or You can list that switch with the same tool as above.
    Found it:

    found_it.png

    Time to play

    Many thanks again.

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    Re: Trusty GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

    Since gnome-session-flashback is dependant on gnome-screensaver being installed there is no way to get a working screensaver (xscreensaver) in Saucy 13.10 or Trusty 14.04.
    I came up with a little work around that leaves gnome-screensaver installed while using xscreensaver.

    I entered this in a text editor and saved it as killscreensaver in my home directory.
    PHP Code:
    #! /bin/bash
    sleep 60
    killall gnome
    -screensaver 
    Made it executable via sudo chmod +x /home/cavsfan/killscreensaver.
    Then added /home/cavsfan/killscreensaver to my startup applications as well as xscreensaver.

    It seems to like 60 seconds. I tried 20 and less and that didn't work. But 60 seconds will work every time.

    It is mentioned here.

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