synaptic showing upgradable packages but nothing in software updater

[medior]

Hi,

A few days ago I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 (64-bit). When I open synaptic I get a list of 9 upgradable packages (see screenshot), but when checking with Software Updater it tells me the software on this computer is up to date. Does anyone know why the two applications don't agree? Is it save to install upgrades through Synaptic?

synaptic_upgradable.png

Thanks in advance,

medior

[howefield]

Synaptic or the terminal is all I use for updating. Just checked mine and the same installed packages are at the newer version.

What does the terminal say ?

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade

[medior]

Thanks for the quick reply. apt-get upgrade shows the same 9 packages as upgradable:

medior@hp-g6-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security InRelease
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease                        
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy InRelease                     
Ign http://archive.canonical.com saucy InRelease                     
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security Release.gpg            
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates InRelease             
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy Release.gpg                       
Hit http://archive.canonical.com saucy Release.gpg                   
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security Release                
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy Release                                                  
Hit http://archive.canonical.com saucy Release                                              
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports InRelease                                  
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/main Sources                                  
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy Release.gpg                   
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy/main Sources                      
Hit http://archive.canonical.com saucy/partner amd64 Packages        
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted Sources     
Get:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates Release.gpg [933 B] 
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy/main amd64 Packages                                                
Hit http://archive.canonical.com saucy/partner i386 Packages         
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/universe Sources       
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports Release.gpg         
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy/main i386 Packages                
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/multiverse Sources     
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy Release                       
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/main amd64 Packages                                                 
Get:2 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates Release [49.6 kB]                         
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted amd64 Packages                            
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/universe amd64 Packages                              
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/multiverse amd64 Packages        
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/main i386 Packages                                                     
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports Release                                                             
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted i386 Packages                                             
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Sources                                                                
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/universe i386 Packages                        
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/restricted Sources             
Ign http://archive.canonical.com saucy/partner Translation-en_GB      
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe Sources               
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en_GB             
Ign http://archive.canonical.com saucy/partner Translation-en         
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse Sources             
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en                
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/restricted amd64 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse amd64 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main i386 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/universe Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/restricted Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe Translation-en_GB
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/universe Translation-en
Get:3 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/main Sources [2,496 B]
Get:4 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/restricted Sources [14 B]
Get:5 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Sources [14 B]
Get:6 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/multiverse Sources [14 B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/main Translation-en_GB  
Get:7 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/main amd64 Packages [5,493 B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Get:8 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [14 B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/restricted Translation-en_GB
Get:9 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe amd64 Packages [1,293 B]
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com saucy-security/universe Translation-en_GB
Get:10 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [14 B]
Get:11 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/main i386 Packages [5,477 B]
Get:12 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/restricted i386 Packages [14 B]
Get:13 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe i386 Packages [1,301 B]
Get:14 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [14 B]
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/main Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/restricted Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/universe Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/multiverse Sources
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/restricted amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/universe amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/multiverse amd64 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/main i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/main Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/universe Translation-en
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/main Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/restricted Translation-en_GB
Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-backports/universe Translation-en_GB
Fetched 66.7 kB in 3s (18.9 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

medior@hp-g6-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gir1.2-gudev-1.0 libgudev-1.0-0 libpam-systemd libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-journal0 libsystemd-login0 libudev1 systemd-services udev
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,554 kB of archives.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
medior@hp-g6-laptop:~$

[fantab]

Check the update-manager settings... see the set duration to check for updates.

Update using Synaptic or Terminal, what difference does it make how upgrade, as long as you upgrade.

[medior]

Check the update-manager settings... see the set duration to check for updates.

Update using Synaptic or Terminal, what difference does it make how upgrade, as long as you upgrade.

The update-manager settings are set to check daily, and to display immediately for security and other update, and I have this problem now for a couple of days.

The reason why I am not upgrading (yet) via Synaptic or Terminal is because I am trying to find out what is going on. Many of my friends and family use Ubuntu and not all of them are computer experts. They rely on the automatic updates via update-manager.

[ibjsb4]

Update_Manager has it quirts, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

If you must use update manager, it will be necessary to give it a kick-start. I have found this to work in the pass with the update command. So maybe a cron job would work.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto

[philinux]

I got exactly same thing and the same updates. Update manager only shows a very small ubuntu-base update, I did that it checked again and said nothing.

Update-manager says up to date but terminal shows these outstanding updates. Anyway I used the terminal to upgrade these.

[philinux]

Happened on another machine now so I took some screenshots.

First two are what updater shows compared to terminal. I let the updater do it's thing then rechecked in terminal after it showed machine was up to date.

http://imagebin.org/274296

http://imagebin.org/274295

Ok so now updater says up to date but as you'll see below it's not.

http://imagebin.org/274297

Bug report raised. Please could someone confirm it by clicking on the "This bug affects you" button.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...r/+bug/1242749

[Hewjr100]

Is it normal for Ubuntu Software Updater and apt-upgrade to have different results? In my case one say all software is up to date, and the other shows 9 upgrades. I know this is normal in Mint, but do not believe it happens in Ubuntu.

Henry

[philinux]

Threads merged please see post 8. Go to bug report and click on affects you.