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    Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    I installed ubuntu 14.04 from a usb created prior to the release of beta 2 on March 28 onto a laptop having a dual core amd 3 or 4 weeks ago. I have updated from the daily updates every day and the kernel has been upgraded/updated to 3.13.0-20-generic.

    After the release of beta 2 on March 28 I created a DVD and installed it on my Desktop which has a dual core Intel. After one of the daily update cycles on April 1 the kernel was updated to 3.13.0-21-generic.

    I wanted both machines to be as equal as possible but the software updater on the laptop amd never updates the kernel 3.13.0-20-generic to 3.13.0-21-generic.

    Is there a reason for this difference?

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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    Is linux-generic being held back on the laptop ?
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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    If it is I am not sure how it is being done, I have not done anything to cause it to happen knowingly. I have tried to perform everything the same on both machines except the Usb stik has to have update to be at the same update level as the DVD. And I assume by doing updating from the daily files thay should be in sync. Tell me what to look at and I will try to provide better info. Thanks

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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by hwreagan View Post
    If it is I am not sure how it is being done, I have not done anything to cause it to happen knowingly. I have tried to perform everything the same on both machines except the Usb stik has to have update to be at the same update level as the DVD. And I assume by doing updating from the daily files thay should be in sync. Tell me what to look at and I will try to provide better info. Thanks
    Please post the output to
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    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    from the laptop.

    I'm asking because here, any kernel upgrade is held back. I've looked around but do not know why, no one seems to either have this issue or see it as an issue. I just upgrade them individually.
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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    All of my various versions of the 14.04 *ubuntu OSs as VMs in VirtualBox have been updated today to 3.13.0-21, so there must be something diferent about your laptop.

    I always install synaptic and use that for all package management, including updates, and I am uncertain if that might make any difference, or if it can somethimes pull in newer kernels when other methods do not, but it may be worth your installing and using synaptic, just to test that possibility.
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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by ajgreeny View Post
    All of my various versions of the 14.04 *ubuntu OSs as VMs in VirtualBox have been updated today to 3.13.0-21, so there must be something diferent about your laptop.

    I always install synaptic and use that for all package management, including updates, and I am uncertain if that might make any difference, or if it can somethimes pull in newer kernels when other methods do not, but it may be worth your installing and using synaptic, just to test that possibility.
    I do not think synaptic should make any difference, but I may be wrong. Aptitude yes, but synaptic, I'm not sure.
    Do you have the trusty backports enabled ? I have here and I was thinking that was the explanation. Once again, manually upgrading the kernel works fine. I have upgraded to 3.13.0-21 but am not running it yet as I have not rebooted. Will see this tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bapoumba View Post
    I do not think synaptic should make any difference, but I may be wrong. Aptitude yes, but synaptic, I'm not sure.
    Do you have the trusty backports enabled ? I have here and I was thinking that was the explanation. Once again, manually upgrading the kernel works fine. I have upgraded to 3.13.0-21 but am not running it yet as I have not rebooted. Will see this tomorrow.
    No backports enabled on any of my OSs, so that is not an answer.
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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    Quote Originally Posted by ajgreeny View Post
    No backports enabled on any of my OSs, so that is not an answer.
    Well, yes, it is, thanks. As my kernels are always kept back, and so are other packages sometimes, I was thinking to comment out the backports. You've convinced me to do it tomorrow
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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    As a matter of fact I have alternately used Software Updater along with the term cmds of
    sudo apt-get updates
    sudo apt-get upgrade

    I am looking at the grub login statements and run Sysinfo to determine the version it this helps any to know why I see different versions.

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    Re: Different kernel install in ubuntu 14.04 beta 2 for Intel and AMD

    The only thing I typically use Ubuntu Software center for is to install synaptic package mgr. The I use synaptic and gdebi to do the other installs except I do run Software Updater to install the daily updates along with the sudo apt-get update and upgrade term cmds. (On the last installation I did use Ubuntu Software center for a few of my installs and noticed it seemed to run faster than previous versions but I still prefer Synaptic.)
    BTW, could someone explain what the difference between using Software Updater and the sudo apt-get... I am guilty of blindly using something without knowing the why! Shame on me again!!!
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