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  1. #1
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    Angry Boot problems

    Hello all,

    I'm in a bind with my new system. (first time Ubuntu installer)

    (All brand new)
    ASROCK Z87 EXTREME4 1150 SERIES MOTHERBOARD
    i7 CORE 3.4GHZ HASWELL 4470 Intel PROCESSOR
    2 KINGSTON 4GB DDDR RAM
    1 KINGSTON 128GB SSD V300

    USB/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso
    DVD/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso

    ASROCK Tech Support stated my bios confiq, system boot sequence and sata connection are correct.

    I get Black screen with flashing cursor top left corner. USB boot attempt. (2.0 port)
    I get "Press any key to continue" message. DVD boot attempt.

    ASROCK Bios has a shell option in which I had to download .efi file and rename it shellx64.efi
    Finally in EFI SHELL and I can see USB DIR

    fs0: .....ubunto-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso

    What do I do to launch this iso file?

    If anyone wants to mention GRUB or GRUB2 or any other third party stuff to mount ISO files in efi shells, please list a concise How-To and provide links to software you wish to suggest.

    Otherwise, please note that the ASROCK tech stated that the EFI SHELL is not to install operating systems, but for other functions regarding driver installs, etc., not for iso.
    I felt that the tech spoke with confidence.

    Is it that ubuntu 13.04 is not ready for what I'm throwing at it?
    Do I need to wait for the soon release of 13.1 Salamander or whatever its called?

    I've done enough research to know that the information provided should help resolve my issue and get me going in the correct direction.

    sincerely
    Mind Blown in Michigan

    P.S.
    Its not a CHECKSUM issue

    I went down that rabbit hole and downloaded iso multiple times...same results

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    Re: Ubuntu 13.04 problem of the century!

    What graphics card do you have?
    How did you burn the .iso to DVD or USB?
    Is booting from DVD and/or USB enabled in BIOS/UEFI?
    Is the HDD partitioned and formatted? What partition table does the HDD have, msdos or GPT?
    "Evolution is Nature's way of issuing upgrades."

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    Re: Ubuntu 13.04 problem of the century!

    since you see an .iso file it's obvious that you did not burn the image correctly to dvd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
    How to put image on USB: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/deskt...ick-on-windows
    (can also use Unetbootin or LinuxLiveUSB creator)

    you also need to provide info fantab is asking about
    Easy to understand Ubuntu manual with lots of pics: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
    Do i need antivirus/firewall in linux?
    User friendly disk backup: Redobackup

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    Re: Boot problems

    Next time please use a more descriptive (and less dramatic) title.
    Changed.
    About problems due to upgrading
    Bringing old hardware back to life.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts

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    Re: Ubuntu 13.04 problem of the century!

    Quote Originally Posted by fantab View Post
    What graphics card do you have?
    How did you burn the .iso to DVD or USB?
    Is booting from DVD and/or USB enabled in BIOS/UEFI?
    Is the HDD partitioned and formatted? What partition table does the HDD have, msdos or GPT?

    FANTAB,

    I'm not using any third party graphic cards, just onboard graphix.

    Maybe I should ask you how your burning .iso file unto USB and or DVD because my way isn't working. (please indicate the correct method)

    Yes, Like I stated before. ASROCK Tech Support went through the bios setting and boot sequence and all is correct.

    I am using an SSD and I am NOT using any other os. I just want to use Ubuntu.

    Why can't I just get Ubuntu to mount into a gui and format and or partition from that point. (like with my mac & windows computers I've build)

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    Re: Boot problems

    So far everyone with the very new Haswell processors has needed the very new 13.10 that has major updates to kernel & video drivers by Intel to work with those new systems.

    You need to decide if booting in the new UEFI boot mode with gpt partitioning or the 30 year old but well known BIOS/MBR boot mode. Very new hardware may work better with UEFI.

    You still may need settings on live flash drive installer's grub menu and first boot grub menu for the Intel driver to configure correctly. And if only installing Ubuntu you may not get grub menu by default, but need to use shift key from UEFI/BIOS until menu appears. Some new UEFI systems need escape instead of shift.

    How you boot install media is how it installs. This shows both a BIOS purple boot screen and the grub2 UEFI boot screen.
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
    Also good to review if using UEFI and have Windows 8:

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/22183...ndows-8-system

    Intel typically does not use nomodeset but other boot parameters in grub, use one of these instead of nomodeset, instuctions below on adding boot parameters in nomodeset link below.

    Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub menu - change to your screen size
    video=1280x1024-24@60
    and if that doesn't work you can try
    video=VGA-1:1280x1024-24@60
    i915.i915_enable_rc6=1

    Some other Intel boot options
    acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor

    How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2 - both BIOS liveCD & grub first boot ( also UEFI with grub)
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

    Older versions
    UEFI, Windows on SSD, Ubuntu on HD ASRock Z77 Pro4 motherboard
    http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10...d-ssd-and-hdd/
    ASRock UEFI bios + Ubuntu Server = operating system not found Install to flash drive
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2153123

    So to people with an Asrock Z77 Extreme4 motherboard: if you install Ubuntu, make sure the drives you are installing from and to are not connected to the Asmedia SATA ports!
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to close thread when/if answered completely.







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    Re: Boot problems

    guys, way too much info about everything. first, my video is fine.

    second, its hard to see the purple boot screen when the Ubunto iso will not boot in to the system.

    what is "grub"

    what is "grub2"

    why do I need grub(s)

    most importantly,
    is 13.04 going to work with my computer specs or is 13.10 the only option I have.

    if anyone is confused with my concern, please review my previous postings on the topic.

    P.S.
    This is the problem of the century and not just a boot problem.

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    Re: Boot problems

    Old BIOS based systems boot from BIOS on motherboard, which jumps to MBR or very first sector of hard drive. In MBR is a boot loader. Windows has its own boot loader and Ubuntu uses grub2. Grub legacy is a now old version that would not even work with your system unless you install in in some old crippled mode.
    Grub2 has two versions - grub-pc for BIOS systems and grub-efi for UEFI systems.
    Ubuntu has to have grub2 to boot. Although there are some workarounds.

    BIOS is 35 years old and has had many changes but just cannot keep up with new hardware. New systems have UEFI, but for use with older hard drives or configurations it has a BIOS mode called:
    UEFI Compatibility Support Module (CSM), which emulates a BIOS mode

    How you boot your install media, DVD or flash drive is how it installs.

    Many install with UEFI and if not dual booting with Windows, it only requires you to boot flash drive in boot mode you want to install - BIOS or UEFI. Since very new system I would suggest UEFI.
    Some that are used to BIOS, have installed in BIOS mode on newer systems, but I am not sure many with very new hardware like yours have.

    Most with Haswell have reported 13.10 works.
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to close thread when/if answered completely.







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    Re: Boot problems

    Thanks for the tips sir.

    Currently I am working on My Intel mac Disc Utility image burning option that I have not tried yet!

    Thanks for your help, I will keep you posted on what I come up with.
    Last edited by Brother_James; October 15th, 2013 at 11:13 PM.

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    Re: Boot problems

    Hello Again all,

    Great news

    It was in front of me this whole time, but everyones help crystalized it.

    Finally realized that you can't just drag and drop .ISO files and expect the image to boot.
    Using the disc utility installed already on my macbook allowed me to burn the .iso as an Image to DVD disc!

    All is well with Ubuntu Except that I don't have any Audio from my HDMI out port.
    Video is great just no audio.

    In the installation process I did not check the LVT (Some kind of volume enhancement technology) box and I am wondering if that was the error of my way.

    Any suggestions welcomed.

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