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    Question Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    Hello, as the title says, I am looking to transfer from Windows (7) to Ubuntu.

    My reason for this is that Windows is taking up too much space. My computer is 13 years old, and has a 20GB hard drive (13 of which are alerady used by C:/Windows). I have about 1GB of files left on the computer (which took a hell of a lot of freeing up space*) outside of C:/Windows, meaning a 6GB space to work with. I know that this is enough to install Wubi and so my thinking is it should be enough for a standalone installation (not sure if 'standalone' is the right word, but I imagine you konw what I mean).


    Another note about my computer is that it doesen't have a working CD drive (I sorta broke it ). And, while my compute has USB1.1 ports, I cannot boot from them (don't know why, but I remeber trying and failing).

    In an ideal circumstance I want to be able to completley remove Windows from my computer and only have Ubuntu.

    *I uninstalled pretty much every proram on my computer, uploaded the files to Google Drive, etc

    Please help where you can,
    Scott
    Last edited by Scott_Page; October 15th, 2013 at 02:18 AM.

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB or Wubi

    Hello and welcome to the forums.

    I have removed your duplicate post.

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB or Wubi

    Thank you, I really didn't mean to. Sorry.

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    If you can install Wubi, doesn't that then have an option to install Ubuntu? Tricky one, I have little (no) idea about Wubi and not many Wubi gurus around here as not used much (and I believe it is being/has been phased out after 12.04).
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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    Try this:

    http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

    Apparently Unetbootin lets you create an install USB, OR do a frugal install to the hard drive. Might work ...

    UNetbootin can create a bootable Live USB drive, or it can make a "frugal install" on your local hard disk if you don't have a USB drive. It loads distributions either by downloading a ISO (CD image) files for you, or by using an ISO file you've already downloaded.
    For an old machine like yours I would advise using Xubuntu or Lubuntu (or lighter). Ubuntu will be a struggle and not a nice experience if you can actually get it to work.
    Last edited by Bucky Ball; October 15th, 2013 at 03:33 AM.

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_Page View Post
    ...

    ...I know that this is enough to install Wubi and so my thinking is it should be enough for a standalone installation (not sure if 'standalone' is the right word, but I imagine you konw what I mean).
    ...
    In an ideal circumstance I want to be able to completley remove Windows from my computer and only have Ubuntu.

    Scott
    With the Old machines, which in your case is 13yrs. old, the most important thing to look for is the RAM size, amongst others.
    The Memory [RAM] size of 256MB is bare minimum and with this kind of memory you can only consider minimal-Lubuntu. If the Memory is 512MB or more then consider Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
    WUBI installs Ubuntu as a Windows program. So you need Windows to run Ubuntu with WUBI. This does not solve you Disk space issue. Installing only one OS is recommended. NO WUBI for this machine.

    Now, to be able to boot from USB you have to set the Boot setup in BIOS to boot from USB devices. Then follow this to burn the ubuntu.iso to the USB disk. Or use the tool Bucky Ball suggests.
    "Evolution is Nature's way of issuing upgrades."


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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    20 GB drive of which windows 7 () is taking most of it. if you ask me that HDD is to small for anything useful. & GB is enough to install Ubuntu but not much else and oyu will be contantly runnign out of disk space.

    now assuming you have enough ram and really do run windows 7 (which means you have 512 or 1 GB ram) i would suggets you start with Xubuntu (go with 12.04 version). first we need to boot into it to see if everything on the laptop is recongised and if all works (sound, wi-fi etc).

    so create a bootable USB using unetbootin, linuxliveusb installer or pendrivelinux.

    if BIOS doens't have a boto from USB option (which is nothing unusual for such an old mashicne) i bet you still have floppy drive. if that one works you can create a bootable floppy using plop boot manager:
    http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/startmodes.html


    how to install plop boot manager on floppy disk: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/plpbt.bin.html

    you can then stick the USB with propperly set ubuntu image in the laptop, set the laptop BIOS to boot from floppy first. then it will boot and open the PLOP boot manager where you can select an option to boot from usb. once the OS boots select try it to see if it all works. then if you are pleased with performance you can install it and just use the whole disk (it will remove the windows). if performance is not good you can try Lubuntu instead or Bodhi linux or... well there is plenty of them but first let's see if it all works and if you can get it to boot.

    post back if you have any issues.
    Easy to understand Ubuntu manual with lots of pics: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
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    User friendly disk backup: Redobackup

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    In using Penlinux I have no issues downloading or using my pre downloaded 13.10 ISO or running PenLinux, (no errors come up) however when I attempt to boot from the USB and rid my Dell Laptop of Win XP for a pure Ubuntu install I only get "Invalid Boot.INI ---- Booting from C:\WIndows"

    Can someone please help, have tried Wubi which allows 12.04.3 but wish to have 13.10 and going from 12.0.4.3 to 12.10 was a nightmare via USUM

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    is the iso good (md5sum check)? try a different programe such as unetbootin or linuxliveusb.
    Easy to understand Ubuntu manual with lots of pics: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
    Do i need antivirus/firewall in linux?
    User friendly disk backup: Redobackup

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    Re: Moving from Windows to Ubuntu wihtout CD, USB

    Quote Originally Posted by sheldon-corey View Post
    In using Penlinux I have no issues downloading or using my pre downloaded 13.10 ISO or running PenLinux, (no errors come up) however when I attempt to boot from the USB and rid my Dell Laptop of Win XP for a pure Ubuntu install I only get "Invalid Boot.INI ---- Booting from C:\WIndows"

    Can someone please help, have tried Wubi which allows 12.04.3 but wish to have 13.10 and going from 12.0.4.3 to 12.10 was a nightmare via USUM
    WUBI works only from within Windows, so "no windows, no wubi". Anyway WUBI has its own problems. Forget WUBI.

    Boot with Ubuntu USB/DVD and "Try Ubuntu without installing", can you do that?
    If you can, then open Gparted and from menu choose 'Device' -> 'create new partition table'. When you create a new partition table all your DATA will be permenantly Lost, So BACKUP ALL YOUR IMPORTANT DATA, first.

    Then create new partition, and install Ubuntu to it. Give atleast 1-2GB for Linux SWAP partition.
    "Evolution is Nature's way of issuing upgrades."


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