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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session?

    Update:

    Set up a 10G partition with lubuntu-core and Openbox. First thing I have to figure out is why Openbox will not boot Worked fine on 14o4 gnome, but no booty in 14o4 Lu. Probably need an entry in lightdm conf. Anyhow I got this far today and ready to put it down for a while
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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Turns out I was not happy with that install; so I went with a standalone openbox install and no other desktop and I also did not want lightdm (just startx). So I have built the basic openbox system with:

    mini.iso 12o4
    openbox
    obconf
    xinit
    xserver.xorg
    and a few app's

    The optional app's I have installed do not show in menu. Looks like I need "menumaker" for this.

    Also need a panel; I'm thinking either py or lx panel.

    Edit:

    Installed lxpanel, working nice and the panel main menu shows all installed apps. Added icons. Have plenty of themes to choose from.

    If I read this right, I can change my r-click menu into a static menu.

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/openbox#Static

    Need to find some examples of menu.xml.
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    Thanks to the post in this thread I have a very good start. Some more packages added, some tweaks, it turns out to be not that hard when presented with the proper information. I am surprising happy with Openbox. Thanks again

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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    Thanks to the post in this thread I have a very good start. Some more packages added, some tweaks, it turns out to be not that hard when presented with the proper information. I am surprising happy with Openbox. Thanks again
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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    ...
    Need to find some examples of menu.xml.
    Here's mine (simple, no nesting):
    Code:
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
    
    <openbox_menu xmlns="http://openbox.org/"
            xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
            xsi:schemaLocation="http://openbox.org/
                    file:///usr/share/openbox/menu.xsd">
    
    <menu id="root-menu" label="Openbox 3">
      <item label="Des_ktop">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>exo-open /home/vasa1/Desktop</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="Downloads">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>exo-open /home/vasa1/Downloads</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="Openbox">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>exo-open /home/vasa1/.config/openbox</execute></action>
      </item>
      <separator />
      <item label="Solitaire">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>sol</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="Composer">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>/home/vasa1/seamonkey2/seamonkey/seamonkey -edit</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="TaskManager">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>lxtask</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="Gmail">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome https://mail.google.com</execute></action>
      </item>
      <item label="Calc">
        <action name="Execute"><execute>calc</execute></action>
      </item>
      <separator />
      <item label="Reconfig_ure">
        <action name="Reconfigure" />
      </item>
      <separator />
      <item label="Exit">
        <action name="Exit" />
      </item>
    </menu>
    
    </openbox_menu>
    Obviously, people will want their own access (accelerator) keys. So, instead of pressing u to reconfigure, having Re_configure would make c the key to press (provided it doesn't conflict with other access keys).

    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    Nice to know you're getting on well!

    I think I mentioned it before, but with vanilla Openbox, you may have trouble with remembering the clipboard contents when you close the source app before pasting into the target app.

    So I have xclipboard set to autostart and have modified the <applications> section of rc.xml to start xclipboard "iconified" and to not appear in the taskbar by means of:

    <application class="XClipboard" name="xclipboard">
    <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
    <iconic>yes</iconic>
    </application>

    And here is my current ~/.config/openbox/autostart:

    Code:
    xsetroot -solid "#000005"
    (sleep 2s && tint2) &
    (sleep 2s && xfce4-power-manager) &
    (sleep 2s && nmcli con up id "DSL connection 1") &
    (sleep 10s && /home/vasa1/.dropbox-dist/dropbox) &
    (sleep 5s && lxpanel) &
    (sleep 5s && conky) &
    (sleep 5s && udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1) &
    (sleep 30s && /home/vasa1/bin/cpu-usage-alert) &
    (sleep 5s && xclipboard) &

    Of course, if the user's clipboard needs are more complex, a heavier clipboard manager such as clipit could be used.
    Last edited by vasa1; April 1st, 2014 at 03:58 AM.
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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Thanks again vasa1. I have not install power-manager; are you on a laptop and does Openbox and dropbox play nice?

    Note: I now have two installs on this box to compare. A core build of Lu and standalone Ob. Out of the starting gate Ob is a bit faster, but both need more packages.
    Last edited by ibjsb4; April 1st, 2014 at 03:55 PM.

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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    Thanks again vasa1. I have not install power-manager; are you on a laptop and does Openbox and dropbox play nice?

    Note: I now have two installs on this box to compare. A core build of Lu and standalone Ob. Out of the starting gate Ob is a bit faster, but both need more packages.
    There will be quite a few differences because my starting point is a regular Lubuntu 13.10 install which has more packages by default, some of which may be useful, some maybe unnecessary.

    xfce's power manager is included in the standard Lubuntu install.

    Yes, my system is a laptop, Dell Inspiron 1545 Core2Duo with 4GB RAM and lots of free space.

    I installed Dropbox direct from the dropbox.com site and haven't seen any difference in its behavior when I run a Lubuntu session and when I run the Openbox session.

    As you pointed out, switching gtk themes is a bit fidgety but now I'm settled and don't miss the DE.

    There's a lot to explore in rc.xml and you can set up all sorts of keyboard shortcuts including aerosnap and how to open apps at a specific location on the screen and with defined sizes and with or without window decorations, etc, etc, etc.
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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    When I installed the package "gksu" I notice it also installing gconf files, so I installed gconf-editor to see whats up.


    So I now have gocnf-editor running with one (and only one) package in it, gksu, funny

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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Here's my findings (keep in mind I'm on a very old box).


    Boot time to desktop (both running same app's):
    Lubuntu-core with lightdm = 26sec
    Standalone Openbox with startx = 22sec


    I think this is because lubuntu just has more startup programs.


    I cannot see any performance difference when running apps (runs fast), although openbox uses less ram.


    Both installs are still lacking necessary packages and will be added to in the weeks to come, but right now I'm leaning towards the core build of lubuntu. It has the little things done that can be added to openbox, but lacking from the start.


    Makes me think this is about to go full circle and end up back at Ob no-desktop on Lu

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    Re: Guide to using Openbox session in Lubuntu

    Well this has turned out to be quite an adventure. I am really, really impressed with Openbox and will continue to explore Openbox as a possible replacement of my gnome-session. Although running it without a desktop does not seem to fit my needs. I find lxde or lubuntu-core better suited for me.


    Again I thank all for the input (got me off to a really good start) .. good travles

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