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    Question Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Hello,

    I don't currently have Ubuntu installed but I was wondering about playing some older & newer games on my PC once I do install Ubuntu 12.04. I really don't want to install it unless I can play these games. All of these games I have purchased as CDs unless otherwise stated.

    Here are the games I'd like to play-
    Zoo Tycoon 2 Ultimate Collection
    Zoo Tycoon 1
    Roller Coaster Tycoon Loopy Landscapes
    Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
    The Sims 3 (with all of the expansion packs) purchased through Origin (http://origin.com/)
    The Sims 1 Complete Collection *
    Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds Clone Campaigns
    Star Wars Battlefront 2 *
    Sim City 2000 & 3000 *
    Sea World Tycoon 3D
    Total Annihilation
    Deus Ex *

    The games with stars are not deal breakers when it comes to installing linux but I would like to have the option of installing them.

    I did use WINE in the past (as I installed Linux then reinstalled Windows for the games) but I couldn't get it to run Origin so I gave up. I would rather not dual boot my system as I want to settle on having one or the other. I would like to install linux so that I don't have to worry about viruses/trojans (at least not as much).

    I have the HP Pavilion p7-1534 with AMD vision graphics card. If you want to see more about it this is the link to where I purchased it-http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pavilion...ion&cp=1&lp=13


    Here is my DxDiag. I literally just ran this as I am typing this post.
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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    I do not do games, but a search on "Zoo Tycoon linux" came up with this:

    http://zootekphoenix.com/forums/inde...showtopic=5388

    Also an easier way (at least easier for me) is to use "play on linux" instead of just wine.

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayOnLinux

    Its in the software center, and also in the software center for old dos apps:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DOSBox

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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Okay, does "play on linux" work better than wine?

    Thanks for the links!

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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    PoL is "just" an manager that does Wine-stuff for you.

    Normally with Wine you have a .wine -folder in your home-folder. Everything you install in Wine ends up in the same Windows-env. under /home/user/.wine.
    PoL creates a .playonlinux -folder, and with each new Windows-app installed thorough POL a new Windows-env (in a new folder) gets created below .playonlinux.

    Each Windows-env. is called a Wineprefix, and using wine you can create any amount and anywhere, but it's more complex using wine. So you'r best of using PlayOnLinux, or CrossOver (not free, but good).

    In PoL make sure you install each new game in it's own wineprefix, you can choose that during the install-process. Having different games (that req. different settings to work) in the same prefix can mess up things for you.
    Think of each Wineprefix as yet another Windows-computer, it has C:\ and perhaps other partitions as well. Just like in Windows.


    And you'r computer is more than capable to play any of those games you'r listed, old age can be good as the chance is higher that someone has written a PoL-script for it.

    Good luck!
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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    I am a purchaser of Crossover Pro from CodeWeavers, and I have found that some Windows games work better with PlayOnLinux than Crossover. I don't mind, since Crossover sales help fund Wine development, which makes it money well spent IMHO. PlayOnLinux, of course, is free.

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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Have you tried any of them? I had mixed succes with Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 and 2 on Wine. For RCT1 I needed a patch, RCT2 was fine without patches. I did notice that the game started to slow down with higher number of guests in the park (> 1000) on Windows there was no slowdown in that stage. It's unlikely that you get that whole list to run flawless, there will always be some issues. Dual booting is certainly not ideal but it's still the best option for gamers I'd say. As the games on your list are old a Windows VM with hardware acceleration might work too for some of them.
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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    PoL is "just" an manager that does Wine-stuff for you.

    Normally with Wine you have a .wine -folder in your home-folder. Everything you install in Wine ends up in the same Windows-env. under /home/user/.wine.
    PoL creates a .playonlinux -folder, and with each new Windows-app installed thorough POL a new Windows-env (in a new folder) gets created below .playonlinux.

    Each Windows-env. is called a Wineprefix, and using wine you can create any amount and anywhere, but it's more complex using wine. So you'r best of using PlayOnLinux, or CrossOver (not free, but good).

    In PoL make sure you install each new game in it's own wineprefix, you can choose that during the install-process. Having different games (that req. different settings to work) in the same prefix can mess up things for you.
    Think of each Wineprefix as yet another Windows-computer, it has C:\ and perhaps other partitions as well. Just like in Windows.


    And you'r computer is more than capable to play any of those games you'r listed, old age can be good as the chance is higher that someone has written a PoL-script for it.

    Good luck!
    That is really confusing but if that works, I'm sure I could deal with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldrocker99 View Post
    I am a purchaser of Crossover Pro from CodeWeavers, and I have found that some Windows games work better with PlayOnLinux than Crossover. I don't mind, since Crossover sales help fund Wine development, which makes it money well spent IMHO. PlayOnLinux, of course, is free.
    Quote Originally Posted by Euroman View Post
    Have you tried any of them? I had mixed succes with Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 and 2 on Wine. For RCT1 I needed a patch, RCT2 was fine without patches. I did notice that the game started to slow down with higher number of guests in the park (> 1000) on Windows there was no slowdown in that stage. It's unlikely that you get that whole list to run flawless, there will always be some issues. Dual booting is certainly not ideal but it's still the best option for gamers I'd say. As the games on your list are old a Windows VM with hardware acceleration might work too for some of them.
    Yeah, I wasn't looking for flawless...Just as long as it works. My current Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds stops responding while I play so I just keep saving...I don't care about that.
    I really just want them to run.

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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by dudethatserin View Post
    That is really confusing but if that works, I'm sure I could deal with it.
    It sounds harder than it is, really. (Mostly because DarkAmbient is describing what PoL does for you) PoL does a lot of the Wine configuration in the background, and all you really need to do is go through a set of dialog boxes to help install each game.

    A good resource for these games would be the Wine AppDB. Click on "Browse Apps", then search for the name of the game, and see how people are rating it, what tweaks that had to do to make it run right, etc.

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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    Sorry if I confused you, a basic understanding of how Wine and Wine-prefixes works can help a lof if you run into trouble.

    But as mentioned, PoL handle that for you.

    I use CrossOver myself, for my Heroes of Might and Magic -games. But they'd probably work just as well using PoL.
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    Re: Playing older PC games on Ubuntu

    windows games are best played in widnows. trouble is even some older windows and dos games don't work in new windows. sometimes they do in linux or you need a virtual mashcine anyway (even in windows).
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