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    VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Hello everyone.
    Several weeks ago. I can use VirtualBox on my ubuntu correctly(Still on ubuntu 13.04 64bits). I don't known which update made this incompatible problem with virtualbox.
    When I start the virtualbox service, I got this error message '[ 3488.347958] warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
    [ 3614.728633] vboxdrv: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0)'.
    I try to used the official VirtualBox and open source version from repository. The problem are still happened.
    I also google it and no answer. Anyone known how to resolve this problem. Thank you.


    OS: Ubuntu 13.04 64bits
    Kernel: 3.8.0-30-generic
    Virtualbox: virutalbox-4.2(ubuntu repository version), virtualbox 4.2.16(Official version)
    Last edited by anderlew; August 25th, 2013 at 01:58 AM.

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Nobody had the same problem as me? I known one of my friends he using ubuntu 13.04 also, and virtualbox working correctly. But he used ubuntu 32bits.
    Could you tell me which ubuntu(32bits or 64 bits) and virtualbox version are you using.
    Thank you.

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Quote Originally Posted by anderlew View Post
    Could you tell me which ubuntu(32bits or 64 bits) and virtualbox version are you using.
    32bit and always download vBox from the VirtualBox site. I have been doing this for a few years and problems are rare for me.

    And I only run LTS versions (12.04).

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    32bit and always download vBox from the VirtualBox site. I have been doing this for a few years and problems are rare for me.

    And I only run LTS versions (12.04).
    Thank you, ibjsb4.
    Does any other friend also met the same problem as me.
    I'm so lock got this problem. Do I need create a bug for ubuntu developer?

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    I believe that whether you can run 64-bit guests on top of a 64-bit host depends on features of the CPU and BIOS.

    However, you might try this first. Use "sudo apt-get purge virtualbox*" to remove any existing repository versions. Next visit https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads and follow the instructions for "Debian-based" systems. Even though it does not appear in the list, on a 13.04 machine you should add the line

    Code:
    deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring contrib
    to /etc/apt/sources.list. Follow the instructions to download and install Oracle's public key, then use apt-get to install VB as described on the Downloads page. This method ensures that your installation of VB will be kept up-to-date automatically using the same system Ubuntu uses to update all the other software on your system.
    If you ask for help, please have the courtesy to check for responses and thank the people who helped you.

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    No help on this specific topic, but I'll put forth a different option ...

    I stopped using virtualbox on Linux systems a few years ago - the stability was crap back then on my hardware.

    Switched from Xen to KVM-based virtualization. KVM has always worked. ALWAYS, when Xen, virtualbox, proxmox, ESXi and a few others refused to work. These days, running KVM with libvirt provides a way to get great desktop audio and GPU performance by using the Spice remote desktop - no more slow VNC stuff needed. It will never be as fast as VirtualBox desktop-on-desktop graphics, but it is very close. I've seen streaming video work with Spice. The key is to use virt-manager to setup the VMs - virt-manager is a GUI app that anyone used to VMware Player or VirtualBox will quickly understand.

    Less and less do we need to use software created by corporations known to be hostile towards F/LOSS.

    Anyway, I hope you find a solution that meets your needs. There isn't a one-size fits everyone solution yet.

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Less and less do we need to use software created by corporations known to be hostile towards F/LOSS.
    While Oracle indeed bought VirtualBox as part of its purchase of Sun, it looks to me like the original developers still largely run the show. (For instance, the website hasn't changed in years.) The only proprietary features of VB are things like USB integration which cannot be freely distributed because they require a license from usb.org.

    Running VirtualBox on a Windows or Linux desktop machine is bog-simple. In the desktop setting, using ordinary applications, I don't find performance to be an issue. If I were running a server that supports multiple virtual machines, I'd opt for a different solution like Xen or KVM. My Linode VMs are all on the Xen platform. However for desktop users who, like me, occasionally need to run Windows or try things out in a CentOS or Ubuntu Server instance, I have no complaints about VirtualBox.

    I do use PostgreSQL partly because I don't trust Oracle when it comes to SQL databases. I don't think they give a damn about VB; it was just something that came along when they bought Sun. MySQL posed a bigger threat to their core business, which is a reason to avoid it, though I think Postgres is the bigger threat when it comes to enterprises. I started using Postgres when I needed a database I could distribute freely to clients; at the time both MySQL and the now-departed msql had restrictive licenses. RedHat included PG, and so did I. Now I can't imagine using anything else.
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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Quote Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
    While Oracle indeed bought VirtualBox as part of its purchase of Sun, it looks to me like the original developers still largely run the show. (For instance, the website hasn't changed in years.) The only proprietary features of VB are things like USB integration which cannot be freely distributed because they require a license from usb.org.

    Running VirtualBox on a Windows or Linux desktop machine is bog-simple. In the desktop setting, using ordinary applications, I don't find performance to be an issue. If I were running a server that supports multiple virtual machines, I'd opt for a different solution like Xen or KVM. My Linode VMs are all on the Xen platform. However for desktop users who, like me, occasionally need to run Windows or try things out in a CentOS or Ubuntu Server instance, I have no complaints about VirtualBox.

    I do use PostgreSQL partly because I don't trust Oracle when it comes to SQL databases. I don't think they give a damn about VB; it was just something that came along when they bought Sun. MySQL posed a bigger threat to their core business, which is a reason to avoid it, though I think Postgres is the bigger threat when it comes to enterprises. I started using Postgres when I needed a database I could distribute freely to clients; at the time both MySQL and the now-departed msql had restrictive licenses. RedHat included PG, and so did I. Now I can't imagine using anything else.
    As usual, we agree on almost everything ... except I've not had the same luck with virtualbox on Linux. 50% of the machines I've tried it on would crash the hostOS - complete lockup. OTOH, that was 3+ yrs ago. For the last 2 yrs, Mom's PC has been using VirtualBox on Linux and while it isn't as clean an implementation as KVM, it has been stable for Mom. I've been using VirtualBox on Windows for about 4 yrs - multi-week stability was an issue until Win7 came out and had 6 months of use - since that time, vbox with Windows as the hostOS has caused ZERO stability issues here - we're talking months between reboots ... or whenever the monthly patches from MS are released.

    Xen is fine, provided someone else is running the hostOS. 4 yrs of experience doing that here on a few different HW platforms.

    DBs - I prefer pg, choose to use whatever DB the developers use and if that is MySQL, use MariaDB instead. Just brought up a Redmine instance today. They "support" pg, but they develop on MySQL. I try to never fight the developers - having been one commercially.

    These days, I avoid anything that says "oracle" if possible, but EMC and VMware have proven to be much worse to me and my clients. Sometimes, we have to pick the least evil solution. ;(

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Quote Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
    I believe that whether you can run 64-bit guests on top of a 64-bit host depends on features of the CPU and BIOS.

    However, you might try this first. Use "sudo apt-get purge virtualbox*" to remove any existing repository versions. Next visit https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads and follow the instructions for "Debian-based" systems. Even though it does not appear in the list, on a 13.04 machine you should add the line

    Code:
    deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring contrib
    to /etc/apt/sources.list. Follow the instructions to download and install Oracle's public key, then use apt-get to install VB as described on the Downloads page. This method ensures that your installation of VB will be kept up-to-date automatically using the same system Ubuntu uses to update all the other software on your system.
    Thanks for you reply. I do it before and not useful. I just try to do it by your instructions again and it still can't working.
    I will try to use KVM recently. because I red a news about 'Oracle will stop to developing VirtualBox'.

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    Re: VirtualBox had incompatible problem on Ubuntu 13.04 64bits

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFu View Post
    No help on this specific topic, but I'll put forth a different option ...

    I stopped using virtualbox on Linux systems a few years ago - the stability was crap back then on my hardware.

    Switched from Xen to KVM-based virtualization. KVM has always worked. ALWAYS, when Xen, virtualbox, proxmox, ESXi and a few others refused to work. These days, running KVM with libvirt provides a way to get great desktop audio and GPU performance by using the Spice remote desktop - no more slow VNC stuff needed. It will never be as fast as VirtualBox desktop-on-desktop graphics, but it is very close. I've seen streaming video work with Spice. The key is to use virt-manager to setup the VMs - virt-manager is a GUI app that anyone used to VMware Player or VirtualBox will quickly understand.

    Less and less do we need to use software created by corporations known to be hostile towards F/LOSS.

    Anyway, I hope you find a solution that meets your needs. There isn't a one-size fits everyone solution yet.
    Thanks for your help. I will try to use kvm, vmware or other products instead of virtualbox.

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