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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    <--EDIT : Old test -->

    I made some intensive test to see the performance and the stability of this new driver :
    My hardware:
    Laptop Dell 510m
    Pentium M 1.6 G
    1024 Mo DDR
    HD 5200 tr/min

    1. Copy of 745 files for a total of 655,3 Mo
    EXT3 -> NTFS : 2min 02s
    0 % failure
    0 % corruption

    2. Copy of 2 movie for a total of 1167 Mo
    EXT3 -> NTFS : 2min 37s
    0 % failure
    0 % corruption

    3. Copy of 5986 files for a total of 642,6 Mo
    EXT3 -> NTFS : 3min 23s
    1 failure (operation not permit) -> 0,000167056 % failure
    but because the operation stop before -> 0 % corruption

    4. Copy of 2794 files for a total of 63,3 Mio
    EXT3 -> NTFS : 9.5s
    EXT3 -> EXT3 : 14.7s
    0 % failure
    0 % corruption

    5. Copy of 1 movie for a total of 485 Mo
    EXT3 -> NTFS : 1min 1s
    EXT3 -> EXT3 : 46s
    0 % failure
    0 % corruption

    CONCLUSION:
    To test the possibility of corruption, i reboot to windows, and test, not each files,
    but randomly a lot of them, and i encounter not the single problem.
    What is good with fuse is that it stop the service before it could do possibily something wrong.
    I encounter 1 failure for 1 file on the 9529 i test, it means finaly:
    0,000104943 % of failure
    0% of corruption
    This new driver is not yet perfect but it's near to the perfection, and the percentage of failure is so low that it's quite acceptable for a desktop usage i think. On top, seens it dosn't lead to a corruption of the drive. it's also totaly safe.
    And quite speed also, it even bit ext3 for a copy of lots of file in few size.
    This is something i waited for a long time. This is really important for newbie. One less reason to return to windows 8)

    Share your tests.
    Last edited by givré; October 7th, 2006 at 12:59 AM.
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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Can you tell me what I did wrong? Mine does not work. I got lost at step 3. I did not know what to put on <mount point>. Here is what I copied. I am a newbie to Linux.

    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    /dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
    /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
    /dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0

    When I try to open the partition, I get the error below.
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    Thumbs down Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Thank you, its working... but,
    no confirmation for delete! Hit delete and its gone!
    lol.

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Quote Originally Posted by harryhoudini66 View Post
    Can you tell me what I did wrong? Mine does not work. I got lost at step 3. I did not know what to put on <mount point>. Here is what I copied. I am a newbie to Linux.

    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    /dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
    /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
    /dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0

    When I try to open the partition, I get the error below.
    Type
    Code:
    sudo mount -a
    to mount all drives. You need to be the super user to mount/unmount drives. Also to do the above command, you must be something called a sudo-er. If the above command doesnt work and says
    Will report incident blah blah
    It means your name is not there in the
    Code:
    /etc/sudoers
    file also. So, type
    Code:
    su
    enter password and then type
    Code:
    mount -a
    Should work!

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    I got this error when I ran the command:



    harryhoudini66@linux:~$ sudo mount -a
    Password:
    fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /media/windows: No such file or directory
    fuse_mount failed.
    Unmounting /dev/sdb1 (DSK1_VOL1)
    harryhoudini66@linux:~$

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    I think the problem relates to the <mount point>. What is that? I made a directory and called it windows. I then assumed that is what went in <mount point>.

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Here is what I get when I do step 3:


    /dev/sdb1 * 1 30401 244196001 7 HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sdc1 1 24792 199141708+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

    My fstab looked like this and does not have the sdc1 listed.

    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    /dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
    /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

    Lets say I make a directory called XPPro, how is my fstab supposed to look?

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Got it to work. The command above appears bring up a diffrent name for my device. The correct one was sdb1 instead of sdc1. Once I changed that it worked great.

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    I have several windows drives. Using the ntfs filesystem in fstab to mount them (which was the default from the Ubuntu install) makes them all show up on the desktop. Now for some reason only the first drive listed in fstab shows up on the desktop. The rest don't and if I double click them under Places->Computer, I get this error:

    Code:
    Unable to mount selected Volume:
    mount: according to mtab, /dev/fuse is already mounted on /media/sata
    
    mount failed
    But the mount points are working fine - so if I navigate to /media/sata and do 'ls' I can see my files. Deleting also works so the new driver appears to be working.

    Can anyone explain why this is happening and what the solution is?

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Unfortunatly, there is no solution for this problem. ntfs-3g use fuse to mount partition. The system refer to /dev/fuse which refer to all the partition it control... So all for the system, it's like that all your NTFS partition are /dev/fuse. If you do 'more /etc/mtab' in a terminal, you will see it. The consequence is that gnome can only show one (the first one) on the desktop and on place>cumputer.
    If you want to be able to access them quikly, you can make a bookmark in nautilus, or you could also mount you partition in your home.
    Ex:you can make a directory call windows in your home and change the mount point to /home/<your username>/windows in /etc/fstab.
    You don't need to mount them in /media, if i made the HowTo like that it's only because the partition mounted in /media are show on the desktop, and for newbie, it's quite important to see them, just like windows do it.
    Hope that will help. 8)
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