HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

givré · 07:28 PM

Introduction :

Support of NTFS partition for linux has always been a problem. Projects exist since many years but was always experimental, and was claim to be not safe. On the 14th of July 2006, a developer of the linux-ntfs team, Szabolcs Szakacsits, revolution this area by releasing a new driver ntfs-3g which claimed to provide full read/write support for all NTFS partition. After months of successful testing by hundreds of thousands of users in beta status, ntfs-3g is now fully stable.

For more information on ntfs-3g : http://www.ntfs-3g.org/

But now you probably want to test this great new feature. So let's start.
Note : You could also use the different traduction of this Howto (ask me to add yours here

):
In french
In portuguese
In german
In spanish
In chinese

Before starting : Please read attentively the instructions, and don't do a simple copy/paste like a lot of people do. I propose 2 ways of configuring ntfs-3g, and if you don't read the instructions, you'll finish by doing the 2 (don't laugh, it happened to more people that you could expect)

1. Set up your sources :

To get the latest ntfs-3g, you will need first to add a repository to your source.list. Open a terminal and type:

Code:

gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

At the end of the file, just add one of the following mirror:
Warning : This repo don't contain amd64 packages. See at the end the amd64 section for more informations.

Feisty users don't have to deal with additionnal repository, all is already in ubuntu repo.

For DAPPER :

Code:

deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all
deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all
deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all

For EDGY :

Code:

deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all

The main channel contains the latest ntfs-3g package and an up to date fuse package.

The main-all channel contains modified and unofficial version of pmount and hal (only for dapper) to have a better integration of ntfs-3g in the desktop, and to be able to use ntfs-3g with external device. It also provide a configuration tool, ntfs-config. If you want to configure your system manually and don't need integration in gnome or kde, you can disable this channel.

2. Installation :

Packages of my repository are authenticated with a gpg key. To use it, you should execute the following command :

Code:

wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -

or

Code:

wget  http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -

First, upgrade your system :

Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

Be carfull the choice is here
Now you have the choice between an automatic configuration (via ntfs-config) or a manual configuration.

3. Automatic Configuration :

If you go for the automatic configuration, install ntfs-config. It will automaticly install ntfs-3g :

Code:

sudo apt-get install ntfs-config

Now, it's rather easy. Just launch ntfs-config via the menu (in system tools) or via the terminal :

Code:

gksu ntfs-config

If your NTFS partitions are not yet configure, it will ask you to choose a name that will be use as mount point. Just put the name you want.
Then just enable write support for internal and/or external device, and that's all.

3(alternative). Manual Configuration :

If you go for the manual configuration, just install ntfs-3g :

Code:

sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g

When all is install correctly, we need to configure the NTFS partition to be mount by ntfs-3g.
External device are automatically configure when plug, so you don't need to do this part for them.
To know first the name of your NTFS partition, type in a terminal:

Code:

sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS

you will see in the first colone, the name of your NTFS partition(s).
Now you need to configure them in /etc/fstab. We will also make a backup of this file. In a terminal, type:

Code:

sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
gksu gedit /etc/fstab

locate the line of your NTFS partition. If they are there, just change them so it looks like that:

Code:

/dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0

(of course replace <your partition> & <mount point> by your configuration)
If your partition is not there, you'll have to first create a directory where you would like to mount it :

Code:

sudo mkdir /media/<the name you want>

and add a line at the end of the file like the one above.

Tips: You can change your locale option ( for ex locale=fr_FR.utf8 ). Execute 'locale -a' in a terminal to know which one are supported by your system.
Tips2: If you want to now more about the option available, have a look at 'man ntfs-3g'

Now remount all your drive

Code:

sudo umount /dev/<your partition>
sudo mount -a

or simply reboot.

4. Time to start :

Now some important point,
- Before using it, have a look at the WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO category.
- Look at the COMMON PROBLEM section before asking.

5.(optional) For own compile kernel

If you have compile your own kernel (not from the repo), fuse is probably not implemented. To check that:

Code:

modprobe -l fuse

If it return nothing, you will need to compile it yourself.
Install the source:

Code:

sudo apt-get install fuse-source

and have a look at /usr/share/doc/fuse-source/README.Debian to know how to compile it.

6. For amd64 users :

My repo don't contain amd64 packages so to use ntfs-3g for this arch.
For dapper, you'll have to complile the needed package yourself with those instructions
This will replace step 1 and 2, you'll have then to follow step 3 and 4.
For edgy, ntfs-3g is in universe, so you'll not need my repo, but to use NTFS external device, you'll need a modified version of pmount that i provide in my repo. To install it, follow those instructions

WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO :

The present limitations of this driver are
- access to encrypted files
- writing compressed files (reading is ok)
- change file ownership and access right

COMMON PROBLEM :

* The gnome Trash don't support neither ntfs filesystem nor fat32 filesystem, so when you delete files with nautilus, they don't go in the trash, but in an hidden directory, at the root of the partition, call .Trash-<username>. So to 'empty the trash', you'll have to show hidden files (<Ctrl><H>) and use the suppr function of nautilus on this directory (<Shift><Suppr>)

* Checking manually your partition in windows, chkdsk can report the bellow message :
Cleaning up N unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up N unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up N unused security descriptors.
These messages are part of an optimization process which is
completely independent of ntfs-3g. Nothing to worry about them.

* If your external device don't show up on the desktop when plug, that could mean that it fails because of a wrong configuration, or an unclean device. To know what is the problem, you should mount it using the terminal, with :

Code:

pmount-hal /dev/sda1

Of course, replace /dev/sda1 by the name of your partition.
Post a message here if you don't know what to do.

* If your internal device is not mounted at boot time, try in a terminal :

Code:

sudo mount -a

* If you get this error :

Code:

$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
Failed to mount '/dev/hdc1': Operation not supported
Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:
Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable
device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.
Or
Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
Or
Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.

boot windows, and then shutdown and boot ubuntu (100% guarentee of success).
If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device.

* More common problem ? look at the ntfs-3g FAQ : http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html

NEWS:

08 February 2007 :
* ntfs-3g is now RC1

21 January 2007 :
* Update of the latest ntfs-3g 0.20070118-BETA, and the latest fuse 2.6.1 in the main repo.
For the full ChangeLog, have a look here : http://ntfs-3g.org/releases.html
* New easy method to configure ntfs-3g via ntfs-config.
31 Octobre 2006 :
* New upstream release : ntfs-3g-0.20061031-BETA
- fix: unmount was asynchronous; full fix requires FUSE 2.6.0 as well
- fix: mount was denied if $MFTMirr was too small
- fix: option parsing was incorrect if there was no space between name & argument
- change: new software versioning
22 September 2006 :
* New upstream release : ntfs-3g-20070920-BETA
- fix: file creation at disk-full may lead to i/o errors
- fix: statistic of inodes and free inodes was incorrect (df -i)
- fix: the 'umask' option wasn't always parsed as an octal number
- fix: "too long filename" handling wasn't posix compliant
- fix: mount failed if $MFTMirr had unused garbage at the file end
10 September 2006 :
* New upstream release : ntfs-3g-20070910-BETA
- fix: rename was always denied if the target file or directory existed
- fix: renaming like 'foo' -> 'FOO' was denied in the WIN32 namespace
- fix: fuse kernel module is automatically loaded, no need for config
- fix: verbose mount error messages with hints for solutions
- fix: compilation failed with gcc 2.96
- change: top request: full read-write access to everybody by default
- change: file lookups are always case-sensitive

Wha, finish. If you have some problem, let a message, and share your experience

plutoprime

This actually worked... I'm .. amazed!! Thanks!

Code:

xxxx@Aida:~$ sudo mount -a
Couldn't set locale to en_EN.utf8 thus you may not see properly or at all some files.

I get that though .. but it all work still

givré

This locale is probably not supported for your system.
To know which one you can use, do:

Code:

more /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local

Ex:

Code:

fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

so if you are american and want to use en_US.UTF8, just remplace locale=en_EN.utf8 with locale=en_US.utf8 in /etc/fstab

I will change the default to en_US since it is the more common option. Sorry guys from everywehere else

Cyraxzz · 04:10 PM

Works perfectly here,

With external hard drives you just have to install this program no configurations were necessary.

ZonedOut

I had done a previous tutorial to set up read/write support for NTFS. Now that I've done this tutorial (and everything is working well

) using ntfs-3g, do I need ntfsprogs anymore or is this replacing that?

givré

You don't need it anymore, ntfs-3g is a total remplacement of the further method.

haani

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyraxzz

Works perfectly here,

With external hard drives you just have to install this program no configurations were necessary.

how did u get this to work on external hard drive it only works on internal harddrive since you only change the option in fstab?

Beire

working superb on edgy! great and simple how-to ! congrats

KFASheldon

Haani - this should work fine on any external usb drive,
You can even mount it in fstab (/dev/sda1) mine is workin very well
deleted 80Mb and copied another 102Mb over to the drive no loss all OK and very fast.

kbunsie

Problem here. When I mount the drives only the first one shows up on my desktop. Also, when I do "umount -a" and then "mount -a" my external drive does not remount. Even after I power it off and on again. Any help?

July 16th, 2006	#1
givré May the Ubuntu Be With You! Join Date: Apr 2006 Beans: 1,252	HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using the ntfs-3g (easy & safe method) Introduction : Support of NTFS partition for linux has always been a problem. Projects exist since many years but was always experimental, and was claim to be not safe. On the 14th of July 2006, a developer of the linux-ntfs team, Szabolcs Szakacsits, revolution this area by releasing a new driver ntfs-3g which claimed to provide full read/write support for all NTFS partition. After months of successful testing by hundreds of thousands of users in beta status, ntfs-3g is now fully stable. For more information on ntfs-3g : http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ But now you probably want to test this great new feature. So let's start. Note : You could also use the different traduction of this Howto (ask me to add yours here ): In french In portuguese In german In spanish In chinese Before starting : Please read attentively the instructions, and don't do a simple copy/paste like a lot of people do. I propose 2 ways of configuring ntfs-3g, and if you don't read the instructions, you'll finish by doing the 2 (don't laugh, it happened to more people that you could expect) 1. Set up your sources : To get the latest ntfs-3g, you will need first to add a repository to your source.list. Open a terminal and type: Code: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list At the end of the file, just add one of the following mirror: Warning : This repo don't contain amd64 packages. See at the end the amd64 section for more informations. Feisty users don't have to deal with additionnal repository, all is already in ubuntu repo. For DAPPER : Code: deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main main-all For EDGY : Code: deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all The main channel contains the latest ntfs-3g package and an up to date fuse package. The main-all channel contains modified and unofficial version of pmount and hal (only for dapper) to have a better integration of ntfs-3g in the desktop, and to be able to use ntfs-3g with external device. It also provide a configuration tool, ntfs-config. If you want to configure your system manually and don't need integration in gnome or kde, you can disable this channel. 2. Installation : Packages of my repository are authenticated with a gpg key. To use it, you should execute the following command : Code: wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- \| sudo apt-key add - or Code: wget http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- \| sudo apt-key add - First, upgrade your system : Code: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade Be carfull the choice is here Now you have the choice between an automatic configuration (via ntfs-config) or a manual configuration. 3. Automatic Configuration : If you go for the automatic configuration, install ntfs-config. It will automaticly install ntfs-3g : Code: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config Now, it's rather easy. Just launch ntfs-config via the menu (in system tools) or via the terminal : Code: gksu ntfs-config If your NTFS partitions are not yet configure, it will ask you to choose a name that will be use as mount point. Just put the name you want. Then just enable write support for internal and/or external device, and that's all. 3(alternative). Manual Configuration : If you go for the manual configuration, just install ntfs-3g : Code: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g When all is install correctly, we need to configure the NTFS partition to be mount by ntfs-3g. External device are automatically configure when plug, so you don't need to do this part for them. To know first the name of your NTFS partition, type in a terminal: Code: sudo fdisk -l \| grep NTFS you will see in the first colone, the name of your NTFS partition(s). Now you need to configure them in /etc/fstab. We will also make a backup of this file. In a terminal, type: Code: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak gksu gedit /etc/fstab locate the line of your NTFS partition. If they are there, just change them so it looks like that: Code: /dev/<your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 (of course replace <your partition> & <mount point> by your configuration) If your partition is not there, you'll have to first create a directory where you would like to mount it : Code: sudo mkdir /media/<the name you want> and add a line at the end of the file like the one above. Tips: You can change your locale option ( for ex locale=fr_FR.utf8 ). Execute 'locale -a' in a terminal to know which one are supported by your system. Tips2: If you want to now more about the option available, have a look at 'man ntfs-3g' Now remount all your drive Code: sudo umount /dev/<your partition> sudo mount -a or simply reboot. 4. Time to start : Now some important point, - Before using it, have a look at the WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO category. - Look at the COMMON PROBLEM section before asking. 5.(optional) For own compile kernel If you have compile your own kernel (not from the repo), fuse is probably not implemented. To check that: Code: modprobe -l fuse If it return nothing, you will need to compile it yourself. Install the source: Code: sudo apt-get install fuse-source and have a look at /usr/share/doc/fuse-source/README.Debian to know how to compile it. 6. For amd64 users : My repo don't contain amd64 packages so to use ntfs-3g for this arch. For dapper, you'll have to complile the needed package yourself with those instructions This will replace step 1 and 2, you'll have then to follow step 3 and 4. For edgy, ntfs-3g is in universe, so you'll not need my repo, but to use NTFS external device, you'll need a modified version of pmount that i provide in my repo. To install it, follow those instructions WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO : The present limitations of this driver are - access to encrypted files - writing compressed files (reading is ok) - change file ownership and access right COMMON PROBLEM : * The gnome Trash don't support neither ntfs filesystem nor fat32 filesystem, so when you delete files with nautilus, they don't go in the trash, but in an hidden directory, at the root of the partition, call .Trash-<username>. So to 'empty the trash', you'll have to show hidden files (<Ctrl><H>) and use the suppr function of nautilus on this directory (<Shift><Suppr>) * Checking manually your partition in windows, chkdsk can report the bellow message : Cleaning up N unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9. Cleaning up N unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9. Cleaning up N unused security descriptors. These messages are part of an optimization process which is completely independent of ntfs-3g. Nothing to worry about them. * If your external device don't show up on the desktop when plug, that could mean that it fails because of a wrong configuration, or an unclean device. To know what is the problem, you should mount it using the terminal, with : Code: pmount-hal /dev/sda1 Of course, replace /dev/sda1 by the name of your partition. Post a message here if you don't know what to do. * If your internal device is not mounted at boot time, try in a terminal : Code: sudo mount -a * If you get this error : Code: $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/hdc1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action: Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows taskbar notification area before disconnecting it. Or Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only. Or Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode. boot windows, and then shutdown and boot ubuntu (100% guarentee of success). If you don't dual boot, get ntfsfix from the ntfsprogs package, run it on the windows device, and add the 'force' option in /etc/fstab for your windows device. * More common problem ? look at the ntfs-3g FAQ : http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html NEWS: 08 February 2007 : * ntfs-3g is now RC1 21 January 2007 : * Update of the latest ntfs-3g 0.20070118-BETA, and the latest fuse 2.6.1 in the main repo. For the full ChangeLog, have a look here : http://ntfs-3g.org/releases.html * New easy method to configure ntfs-3g via ntfs-config. 31 Octobre 2006 : * New upstream release : ntfs-3g-0.20061031-BETA - fix: unmount was asynchronous; full fix requires FUSE 2.6.0 as well - fix: mount was denied if $MFTMirr was too small - fix: option parsing was incorrect if there was no space between name & argument - change: new software versioning 22 September 2006 : * New upstream release : ntfs-3g-20070920-BETA - fix: file creation at disk-full may lead to i/o errors - fix: statistic of inodes and free inodes was incorrect (df -i) - fix: the 'umask' option wasn't always parsed as an octal number - fix: "too long filename" handling wasn't posix compliant - fix: mount failed if $MFTMirr had unused garbage at the file end 10 September 2006 : * New upstream release : ntfs-3g-20070910-BETA - fix: rename was always denied if the target file or directory existed - fix: renaming like 'foo' -> 'FOO' was denied in the WIN32 namespace - fix: fuse kernel module is automatically loaded, no need for config - fix: verbose mount error messages with hints for solutions - fix: compilation failed with gcc 2.96 - change: top request: full read-write access to everybody by default - change: file lookups are always case-sensitive Wha, finish. If you have some problem, let a message, and share your experience __________________ WARNING : Post with explicit contents Join to "STOP monolithic all-in-one unmanageable application" The wiki is your friend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ Last edited by givré; January 23rd, 2008 at 07:28 PM..

July 16th, 2006	#2
plutoprime Gee! These Aren't Roasted! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Earth Beans: 18	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) This actually worked... I'm .. amazed!! Thanks! Code: xxxx@Aida:~$ sudo mount -a Couldn't set locale to en_EN.utf8 thus you may not see properly or at all some files. I get that though .. but it all work still

July 16th, 2006	#3
givré May the Ubuntu Be With You! Join Date: Apr 2006 Beans: 1,252	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) This locale is probably not supported for your system. To know which one you can use, do: Code: more /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local Ex: Code: fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 so if you are american and want to use en_US.UTF8, just remplace locale=en_EN.utf8 with locale=en_US.utf8 in /etc/fstab I will change the default to en_US since it is the more common option. Sorry guys from everywehere else __________________ WARNING : Post with explicit contents Join to "STOP monolithic all-in-one unmanageable application" The wiki is your friend https://help.ubuntu.com/community/

July 16th, 2006	#4
Cyraxzz Gee! These Aren't Roasted! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western Eurasia Beans: 199 Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) Works perfectly here, With external hard drives you just have to install this program no configurations were necessary. Last edited by Cyraxzz; July 16th, 2006 at 04:10 PM.. Reason: typo error

July 16th, 2006	#5
ZonedOut Spilled the Beans Join Date: Jul 2005 Beans: 14	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) I had done a previous tutorial to set up read/write support for NTFS. Now that I've done this tutorial (and everything is working well ) using ntfs-3g, do I need ntfsprogs anymore or is this replacing that?

July 16th, 2006	#8
Beire A Carafe of Ubuntu Join Date: Oct 2004 Beans: 29	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) working superb on edgy! great and simple how-to ! congrats

July 16th, 2006	#9
KFASheldon 5 Cups of Ubuntu Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK My beans are hidden! Ubuntu 6.06	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) Haani - this should work fine on any external usb drive, You can even mount it in fstab (/dev/sda1) mine is workin very well deleted 80Mb and copied another 102Mb over to the drive no loss all OK and very fast.

July 17th, 2006	#10
kbunsie First Cup of Ubuntu Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC, NY Beans: 4 Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn	Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method) Problem here. When I mount the drives only the first one shows up on my desktop. Also, when I do "umount -a" and then "mount -a" my external drive does not remount. Even after I power it off and on again. Any help?

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