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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy_ View Post
    Or simply migrate to Gentoo.
    Did that moved back. Hard work.
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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Is 100% of Ubuntu Source Code Open Source? Is there anything that we can't see? Or is the OP paranoid?

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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Traxster View Post
    Is 100% of Ubuntu Source Code Open Source? Is there anything that we can't see? Or is the OP paranoid?
    I go along with what ian-weisser wrote:

    Quote Originally Posted by ian-weisser View Post
    Sigh.

    If you are concerned about the evil cabal of [Canonical, Major League Baseball, Freemasons, Jedis, Penguins, etc.] having unrestricted access to your data, then encrypt it.

    The "we have root" quote is not literal. Masked goons from Canonical cannot SSH into your machine.

    The point was that you already trust Canonical and Ubuntu to provide unpoisoned repositories, security updates, Ubuntu One storage cloud, Single Sign On service, IP geolocation server, and much more. If you participate in those services, then those servers already handle your login/password, approximate location, your cloud-stored pornography, the packages on your system, etc. A for-profit company bent on monetizing that data could learn a lot about you from those.

    Anonymizing and monetizing your search queries requires user trust...and you are already trusting Canonical with a lot of data about you. You are not required to trust Canonical - you can easily disable or use alternatives for most services, nor are you prohibited from sending false or misleading information to those servers if you choose to use the services.

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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    You are not required to trust Canonical - you can easily disable or use alternatives for most services, nor are you prohibited from sending false or misleading information to those servers if you choose to use the services.
    The simple fact that certain services are enabled by default (which you can disable) begs the question as to why some people feel the need to complain about something which there too lazy to fix themselves. Let alone know there's a solution for if they only looked.

    PS. Recently and more alarming to read was a gov. paper I ran across describing the NSA's ability to breach security and it's roll in the development of OpenBSD. Acclaimed for it's security.
    Since first finding the paper on a .gov site it has been since taken down. Thanks to the waybackmachine it can be retrieved.

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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Go Debian, after all, any improvements go back to Debian minus the spywares. In addition, what is the relationship of Ubuntu to Google??? Go figure. Ubuntu is insidious that it does't spy with in your face style, so newbie who objects would have no idea where to begin looking or googling. I will use my time for other stuff than to monkey with the os, no thank you ubuntu.

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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by malspa View Post
    I go along with what ian-weisser wrote:

    Why would I go with that answer when it has nothing to do with my question? I am not concerened with the comment "errm, we have root" Mr. Shuttleworth made, because he explained himself and I believe i know what he meant, although I find his comments very interesting, that will be the topic of a future post. Ubuntu touts itself as open source which a lot of people believe is a defense against malware. I am just asking for confirmation to a legitimate question, and I am sure a lot of others would like to know as well. Is there any code, (other than some restricted drivers, which are only available in binary format and can be removed if your system does not need them), distributed to the public by Canonical or a Third party that is packaged in to Ubuntu or other variants of Ubuntu that is not accessable for pier review?


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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Traxster View Post
    Why would I go with that answer when it has nothing to do with my question? I am not concerened with the comment "errm, we have root" Mr. Shuttleworth made, because he explained himself and I believe i know what he meant, although I find his comments very interesting, that will be the topic of a future post. Ubuntu touts itself as open source which a lot of people believe is a defense against malware. I am just asking for confirmation to a legitimate question, and I am sure a lot of others would like to know as well. Is there any code, (other than some restricted drivers, which are only available in binary format and can be removed if your system does not need them), distributed to the public by Canonical or a Third party that is packaged in to Ubuntu or other variants of Ubuntu that is not accessable for pier review?


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    Here, read through this
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    AFAIK, everything inside the default install(meaning everything you'd install if you don't click the 3rd party options that come up during the installation process ie, mp3 codecs, etc,etc,etc) is free software, and the source is publicly available.
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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    Not everything an artist creates is art. Some of it is garbage.

    Not everything someone in a hair shirt shrieks in the wilderness is wise. Some of it is FUD.

    I think the hair shirt RMS wears is so scratchy and uncomfortable that the wise things are greatly outnumbered by the FUD-ish. But he does sometimes get things right.

    Not this one, but some things. He's created a bogey-man and gotten everyone believing it by shouting "Ubuntu is spyware" often enough that it just seems like it must be right. And after parading the sabdfl's obvious joke around on a pike, he still has people talking about it.
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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    @OPIf you haven't noticed, you are trusting Canonical with your UF password by logging on and posting here. What ian-weisser has to say is right and if you are still paranoid after that go use LFS.
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    Re: Canonical has root to everyone's ubuntu?

    They have root huh? Just unplug your net. No more root control from them then haha. Seriously though, it is not to much to worry about, this is not like MS which gives everybody control to your computer through ActiveX. Or the fact they read everything you type on Skype. If it bothers you, turn it off, or make a switch to some other GNU/Linux. Like Gnuwsense or whatever it is called. But it really is not much to worry about I would think.
    Last edited by QIII; August 21st, 2013 at 04:19 AM. Reason: corrected typo: M$ -> MS
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