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    Installation document

    Hi all,
    I am about to help someone install 12.04 but as he lives in Canada and I am in Scotland timezones can be a problem so I thought i would just review some of the documents and came across this:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installa...tallation.html

    Well I have installed 12.04 on my own and my wife's laptops and I am sure I am confused because most of what the document says about
    a minimal base system and extra packages is not my experience.

    However I always do a manual partitioning with /, swap and /home so I am now thinking this may be the reason for the difference.

    I was trying to find out specifically what partitioning the automatic install would choose as, if it's simply / and swap then I will talk him through doing it the way I usually do as i have done it that way since around 6.04. The reason I have done it that way is because although each time I try an upgrade it has messed up so I then just do it manually, choose the same user name and don't format /home

    Also the document talks about setting the password for root But I don't think that's correct is it?
    Can anyone enlighten me please?
    Last edited by linuxonbute; August 9th, 2013 at 04:46 PM. Reason: added information
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    Re: Installation document

    https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/instal...386/index.html
    I navigated back up from the link you provided and down again, the url looks a little different and the info has changed a little.

    I also always set up a separate /home as you do, with additional /storage partition(s) depending on the drive size.
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    Re: Installation document

    Thanks bapoumba,
    I did what you did but I ended up at the same page which does not seem to have changed.
    I have installed ubuntu many times and it has never, ever asked me to set up root's password. I am sure the default is not to set one up or allow a user to log in as root unless the first user set up uses sudo to set one up for root. Nor have I seen the other bit about choosing other software apart for non free stuff.
    I still cannot find for certain what configuration ubuntu uses for partitions as a default.
    Correction I have now found it's / and swap.
    I'll open a new thread now
    Last edited by linuxonbute; August 9th, 2013 at 07:43 PM. Reason: update
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    Re: Installation document

    Well, I looked more carefully, even at the 13.04 doc page, and it seems indeed a little outdated or even from older debian install pages.

    1- the first user created during an install will be able to have root privileges, using sudo/gksudo (or pkexec that I have yet to go around using). So no need to activate a root account. See here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
    2- to custom partition the drive during the install process, choose "Something else", here is a screen capture of what it looks like : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gr...tallation_type with additional info here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace

    As default and if you choose to erase the disk or install next to another OS, I *think* there will not be a separate /home (to be confirmed). I've never done it myself, always keep a separate /home and other storage partitions, so I always use a manual partitioning.

    There is no time stamp on the doc page you linked to. So I'm not sure when it was last updated.
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    Re: Installation document

    Yes I agree with your comments but the problem is I want the install on a laptop in Vancouver area and live on Bute an island off the west coast of Scotland.
    The person who's laptop it is knows nothing about Linux and has a very messed up copy on the laptop.I believe that if /home was on it's own partition it would be safer for him.
    I have opened a new thread about hacking a standard iso.
    If it can be made to default to /, swap and /home I could just send him the disc and he could install it without any bother really and /home would be protected if I needed to talk him through an install later when he might have more confidence.
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    OK, I do not know how easily that could be done (making your own ISO). I'd say that if they have another computer or a phone, something like a hangout could be more effective
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    Re: Installation document

    He does have another laptop but with the 8 hour difference it's not easy to find a time of day when we can both have enough time to get it done
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    Re: Installation document

    Quote Originally Posted by linuxonbute View Post
    He does have another laptop but with the 8 hour difference it's not easy to find a time of day when we can both have enough time to get it done
    Yeah, but that is just a matter of a few minutes once he gets to the screen. Evening for you is morning for him, say next Sunday ?
    I'm kidding you, but it may be the easiest way.
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    Re: Installation document

    Just come across this thread so it might not be so bad. just a steep learning curve to figure out how to edit the default cofig to partition the disc

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874634
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    Re: Installation document

    Cool
    Just had a look, the remastersys project has been stopped. Guess you'll have to go with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
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