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    upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Why are these 3 upgrades being held back and not upgraded?

    arv@Workstation:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
    gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libclutter-1.0-0
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
    arv@Workstation:~$


    This is a minor complaint relating to a lack of information, and not a fault of the system.

    Recently completed a dist-upgrade to Ubuntu 13.04.
    Running Gnome Classic on AMD 2X64-3800 with 4GB RAM & 1TB HD

    Thanks,
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    arvevans; Hi !

    Try this terminal command:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    See if the "smart" mode will resolve the conflict.
    see:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
    for complete disclosure.

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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Do you or have you used a Gnome Shell PPA ? I had problems with that group of packages while attempting to go back to Gnome 3.6 from 3.8.
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Yes. I do use Gnome in classic or no-effects mode. It is required for efficient access to CAD and CNC programs that I use regularly.

    Doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what seems to have brought on the problem of undocumented hold-backs.
    Are there any particular reasons why a software package might be "held back and not upgraded". Surely someone
    wrote the code to do this, and thus should know why it happens?
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Packages are usually held due to lack of a repository connection or conflicting dependencies I have never tried classic on Lubuntu so can you describe how the classic session was installed ?
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Which versions do you currently have installed ?
    Code:
    bapoumba@SonyBlue:~$ apt-cache show gir1.2-cogl-1.0
    Package: gir1.2-cogl-1.0
    Priority: optional
    Section: libs
    Installed-Size: 103
    Maintainer: Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@ubuntu.com>
    Architecture: i386
    Source: cogl
    Version: 1.14.0-0ubuntu1
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gir1.2-cogl-1.0
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Standard apt-get install gnome. That all went fine and installed Gnome-3, which I use in the Gnome Classic mode because those big garish icons are of no use to me (I'm not that blind...yet).\
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Quote Originally Posted by bapoumba View Post
    Which versions do you currently have installed ?
    Code:
    bapoumba@SonyBlue:~$ apt-cache show gir1.2-cogl-1.0
    Package: gir1.2-cogl-1.0
    Priority: optional
    Section: libs
    Installed-Size: 103
    Maintainer: Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@ubuntu.com>
    Architecture: i386
    Source: cogl
    Version: 1.14.0-0ubuntu1
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gir1.2-cogl-1.0
    Installed versions are the standard ones that come with apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, so it is a pretty much vanilla setup.
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    Re: upgrades being HELD BACK but no explanation why

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogs Hair View Post
    Packages are usually held due to lack of a repository connection or conflicting dependencies I have never tried classic on Lubuntu so can you describe how the classic session was installed ?
    Packages being held back by one thing or the other are fine, but I would like a bit more information to be provided when a package is held back. If I need to troubleshoot a problem with a package being held back...it would be nice to know the exact reason it was held back. That way I would know where to start working on fixing the problem. If the package is being held back because of a missing repository it should be easy to tell the user that fact. If the package is being held back because of conflicting dependencies that information should be provided so I can know where to start working fixing the problem.

    There were no repository read failures, so that can guess can probably be excluded, unless it needs a repository that was not enabled.

    Apt-get install -f does not indicate any problem, and there are no complaints about missing or conflicting dependencies.
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