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    Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    I am in my Ubuntu saucy+mir installation. I ran the update for today which brought in updates to libmir and the kernel, which in turn forced a restart. At first I did not notice it but I now see only one cursor arrow and that jumping of the insertion point when correcting typing no longer happens. Am I running on xmir? Well I have checked. What do you think?

    Code:
    grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 37.743] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
    [ 37.781] (II) LoadModule: "xmir"
    [ 37.786] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 37.787] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 37.787] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
    [ 37.787] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
    [ 37.788] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 37.788] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
    Code:
    grep -i xmir /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 37.739] xorg-server 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu3+xmir1 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
    [ 37.781] (II) LoadModule: "xmir"
    [ 37.782] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libxmir.so
    [ 37.785] (II) Module xmir: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    [ 37.791] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 has no monitor section
    [ 37.791] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output XMIR-1
    [ 37.791] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "XMIR mode of death"x59.9 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz eP)
    [ 37.791] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 connected
    [ 37.791] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 using initial mode XMIR mode of death
    [ 37.792] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Driver mode "XMIR mode of death": 119.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 64.7 kHz, 59.9 Hz
    [ 37.792] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "XMIR mode of death"x59.9 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz eP)

    Now, from that I would say 'yes.' But we have been fooled before. And I do not notice a watermark. Is anybody else seeing this?

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    Slight improvement here
    It's running with --enable-input=false so no 2nd cursor.
    At least with this nvidia hardware (8400m), nouveau continues to be poor under xmir
    vsync is broken totally
    alt+f2 may not work
    a full screen Dash can be problematic
    log outs & restarts can show images from vram instead of plymouth
    maybe more - no time atm

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    All I get is:

    grep -i xmir /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 608.219] xorg-server 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu3+xmir1

    and no [ 37.781] (II) LoadModule: "xmir" with grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log

    I have type=unity in 10-unity-system-compositor.conf, any idea ?

    p.s. im using nvidia driver
    Last edited by cecilpierce; July 31st, 2013 at 04:42 PM.

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    I'm heading out - all the relevant here -
    grep -i xmir /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 25.500] xorg-server 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu3+xmir1 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
    [ 25.536] (II) LoadModule: "xmir"
    [ 25.536] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libxmir.so
    [ 25.643] (II) Module xmir: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 has no monitor section
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Printing probed modes for output XMIR-1
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "XMIR mode of death"x59.9 71.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 +hsync -vsync (49.3 kHz eP)
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 connected
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Output XMIR-1 using initial mode XMIR mode of death
    [ 25.678] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Driver mode "XMIR mode of death": 71.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.3 kHz, 59.9 Hz
    [ 25.678] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Modeline "XMIR mode of death"x59.9 71.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 +hsync -vsync (49.3 kHz eP)

    grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 25.519] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
    [ 25.536] (II) LoadModule: "xmir"
    [ 25.655] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 25.673] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 25.673] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
    [ 25.674] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
    [ 25.674] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 25.674] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 25.675] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 25.675] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
    [ 25.675] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
    [ 25.676] (II) UnloadModule: "nouveau"
    [ 25.676] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
    [ 25.676] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
    [ 25.676] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 25.676] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 25.676] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 25.677] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 25.677] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
    [ 25.677] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 25.677] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 25.678] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
    [ 25.678] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
    [ 25.679] (II) LoadModule: "exa"
    [ 25.679] (II) LoadModule: "shadowfb"
    [ 25.759] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
    [ 25.798] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"

    ps afx | grep unity-system-com |grep -v grep
    971 ? S 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor.sleep --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 8 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
    974 ? Sl 0:03 | \_ /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 8 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7

    apt-cache policy lightdm
    lightdm:
    Installed: 1.7.5bzr1634saucy0
    Candidate: 1.7.9-0ubuntu1
    Version table:
    1.7.9-0ubuntu1 0
    500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages
    *** 1.7.5bzr1634saucy0 0
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

    cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-unity-system-compositor.conf
    [SeatDefaults]
    type=unity
    unity-compositor-command=unity-system-compositor.sleep --enable-input=false

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    I had to roll back to an earlier version about a week and a half ago. It was completely busted after upgrade but u was still able to roll back. Will try an update now. (Intel)
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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    Quote Originally Posted by cecilpierce View Post
    All I get is:

    grep -i xmir /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 608.219] xorg-server 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu3+xmir1

    and no [ 37.781] (II) LoadModule: "xmir" with grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log

    I have type=unity in 10-unity-system-compositor.conf, any idea ?

    p.s. im using nvidia driver
    This is the problem
    p.s. im using nvidia driver
    It has to be Nouveau at the moment. Canonical is negotiating with relevant proprietary driver developers about getting their drivers to work with mir.

    http://www.olli-ries.com/running-mir/

    At least it seems that one noticeable bug has been fixed but I am seeing the insertion point jump in the terminal as well as the messed up shutdown screen.
    Last edited by grahammechanical; July 31st, 2013 at 06:02 PM.
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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    On my Dell (Intel)

    ventrical@ventrical-Dell-DV051:~$ grep -i LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 97.639] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
    [ 97.641] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
    [ 97.642] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
    [ 97.642] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 97.643] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 97.648] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
    [ 100.122] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
    [ 100.122] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
    [ 100.123] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
    [ 100.123] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
    [ 100.185] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
    ventrical@ventrical-Dell-DV051:~$ grep -i xmir /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [ 97.633] xorg-server 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu3+xmir1 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
    [ 97.648] (II) intel(0): SNA compiled: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.9+xmir15871-2~saucy1 (Chris Halse Rogers <chris@cooperteam.net>)
    ventrical@ventrical-Dell-DV051:~$

    It identified the right driver but is not working. This obviously is a regression.

    edit:

    The intel graphics hardware I am using on my Old Dell Dimension is probably obsoleted and I have had no luck with ATi or newer nVidia cards
    Last edited by ventrical; July 31st, 2013 at 07:06 PM.
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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    Sorry, I had to go back to nvidia for now, the nouveau just goes crazy.
    Im using the 304 nvidia, wonder if the 319 works any better ?

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    Quote Originally Posted by cecilpierce View Post
    Sorry, I had to go back to nvidia for now, the nouveau just goes crazy.
    Im using the 304 nvidia, wonder if the 319 works any better ?
    319 doesn't benefit my card but certainly may for others.

    Atm, at least here, the u-s-c/mir ppa doesn't work with the nvidia drivers, (log in to a non-3d session), hopefully it will between now & whenever xmir is dropped into 13.10
    By work mean fallback to X with no issues when using the nvidia driver.
    That may prove to be the best option for 13.10 users with nvidia adapters to get away from poor xmir & nouveau performance if it's not vastly improved.

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    Re: Anyone noticed an improvement with xmir?

    I dought if nvidia will make a driver for mir, they were thinking about wayland awhile back but hanen't heard any news yet, at least wayland works with either. Wait and see what happens.

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