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    Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    [Solved] I just recently caught on that my Update Manger lists a suggested 43.2 MB installation of Chrome every time ( or almost) it runs. But I already have Chrome installed and I use it occasionally. I have a hard time believing that Google is updating their browser once or twice per week. I realize I can uncheck it to run in Update, but it made me wonder if to do so I would be missing some security update. Now today, it has decided that I should install Mozilla Firefox (again) for another 26.7 MB and Opera for 13+ MB more. All of these browsers cannot be issuing updates on a daily basis. What is going on with Update mgr? Cut out the browser updates and everything else loads in about 3 minutes.

    I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a desktop and have all 3 browsers installed but use FF about 95% of the time, Chrome 5% and Opera almost never although 6 months ago it was my default browser.
    Last edited by Wadcutter; July 5th, 2013 at 09:47 PM. Reason: It was solved

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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Firefox did have an update, to version 22, today; I don't know about the other two. However it's probable that there's been an update sometime since you installed or last updated those other browsers, and you have unchecked it before installing other updates. The Update Manager will keep reminding you until you DO install it -- unlike Windows Update on XP, which lets me choose to ignore an unchecked update if I so desire.

    The Firefox update replaces the previous version, so it doesn't increase your disk usage. They update approximately once a month, and will be doing it again on August 6 according to a schedule I saw...

    EDIT: If you install the Synaptic package manager (available in the Software Center) and set it to show "installed" packages only, it will show you the version you have installed, and the current version, for every software package on your system that was installed via the package managers (including Update Manager). You can use this feature to determine whether you actually have the version that's triggering the notification.
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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Update manager will not propose the same version as you have installed. Use the "technical description" dropdown to see the difference in version. See attachment for an example.
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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    I use Google Chrome very actively (it's my main used browser on ubuntu) and what it is is that Google added a PPA updater to the software sources in your software updater so that each time a new version is released you get it in your updates and you should allow it to be installed....i doubt if you are getting it twice every week but Chrome does often make very frequent release...not new versions so quick but updated versions with either bug fixes or security updates....It just so happens they did send 2 new updated versions within the last week....

    That doesn't happen that fast all the time... but it CAN....so don't think it's just trying to re-install the same one again...and it's REPLACING the one you got on there now with the newer one...it isn't installing another one separately...

    You can see for yourself....Just look in "about chrome" in the system settings and just write down the version that's installed...let us say it is 28.100.17 (just a made up number) well, after the updater installs the new version , check it again and then you might see, say 28.100.35 (also made up)...that would have either bug fixes, security updates or both...

    Get the picture?
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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Thanks wadcutter for posting this thread, I was also using Chrome and got 3 updates in a week. I didn't like it and thought something fishy was going on and uninstalled it. Now within the last 2 weeks I got 2 firefox updates, which is now my only browser, and had to install both times...

    Wonder if Chromium is more, if i may use the term, stable. I have got a ISP plan where my Download speed drops after 6GB download and i dont wanna install so much Chrome/firefox and add to my download gigs...
    I will keep a lookout at your post to find out more...
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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Quote Originally Posted by Wadcutter View Post
    Update Manger lists a suggested 43.2 MB installation of Chrome every time ( or almost) it runs. But I already have Chrome installed and I use it occasionally.
    You misunderstand. It's recommending an update to Chrome. Updating means removing the old package and downloading and installing the new.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wadcutter View Post
    I have a hard time believing that Google is updating their browser once or twice per week. I realize I can uncheck it to run in Update, but it made me wonder if to do so I would be missing some security update.
    Update Manager naturally assumes that you want to run the latest stable and secure version. You should let Update Manager install everything unless you are on a slow or expensive connection. It does not remember an uncheck, and will continue to offer you the same updated version that you previously refused.

    If you are using PPAs or want to pin versions or do by-package updates or otherwise make your system needlessly complicated, then you should use Synaptic instead of Update Manager.


    Yeah, if you have three big-binary browsers installed, and each send out a security update or two each month, then you will indeed get a lot of big-download updates. The behaviour you describe seems normal for the setup you describe.

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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Exactly...what you should do is re-check it....let it update your current version which will give you the latest...there was 2 new updates for it this past week but that is not something i have seen every week...
    With Firefox you are depending on Canonical to update you which can be a slower process....Google is more "on the ball" with this things and updates promptly when there is a new release...

    Also, Chrome is transitioning to the new "blink" engine from webkit so perhaps that might generate a little more frequent updated versions too...don't know why you guys are making such a fuss about it...Chrome is not unstable (unless you run the testing unstable channel) in fact, if anything Chrome is MORE stable then chromium because they do refinements on the Chromium packages before they make their releases...
    Just let the darn thing update...

    One thing that irks me a bit since getting involved with Linux is that i seem to run across a lot of unnecessary paranoia about certain things...windows and mac users of Chrome are getting the same updates on this...you can relax...

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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    @craig10x, I think what gets some people worried is the download sizes. In Windows, unless there's been some major change, updates for Firefox and Chrome are differential. In other words, they're not the size of a clean install. In Linux, each conventional update of Firefox or Chrome (and most other software) isn't differential. So it's like doing a fresh install with each update.

    Some people don't have access to reliable or cheap internet. And keeping Linux and it's software updated can prove pretty heavy for such people. Even I held off installing Linux until I could get a suitable internet plan
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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Quote Originally Posted by vasa1 View Post
    Some people don't have access to reliable or cheap internet. And keeping Linux and it's software updated can prove pretty heavy for such people. Even I held off installing Linux until I could get a suitable internet plan
    Great point. And there are several other ways to address that problem.
    For example, a user can delay non-security updates in Software Sources (software-properties-gtk)
    Or reduce the frequency of update checks.
    Alternately, a user can significantly reduce update volume by uninstalling unused or rarely-used applications.
    Alternately, some users use cron to update during low-cost hours.
    Alternately, some users use Upstart to update when they connect to low-cost networks.
    There are many flexible solutions.

    There is no reason Ubuntu cannot use delta-based binary updates. Quite a bit of work by Canonical was done back in 2010-2011, if I recall correctly. But the developers abandoned that project before release, and nobody has been interested enough to pick it up since.

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    Re: Update Manager Wants to Install Chrome (already installed) Constantly

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead View Post
    ... And there are several other ways to address that problem.
    ....
    @Cheesehead, could you point to a resource where the more technical tips are laid out in detail? It would be of great use. I'm pretty sure that bandwidth limitation is one factor holding back the spread of Linux (desktop), at least where I come from.

    My compromise has been to go for an unlimited plan but with pathetic speed ... which is one reason why I stay away from "Ubuntu+1 testing".
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