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    Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    My computer has a 1TB HDD that had one big NTFS partition for Windows. I have managed to shrink that partition in half in gparted in the live session of lubuntu that I am running so have of the space is unallocated. I was following a guide to installing lubuntu alongside windows and in one of the steps you pick if you want to install alongside windows, over windows, or do something else for some reason mine skipped that step and goes straight to this.

    How should I proceed? I would like to install lubuntu in the unallocated space that I created.
    Last edited by uncoordinated; July 1st, 2013 at 10:03 PM.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    Welcome to the Ubuntu Forums

    Things can be misunderstood or go wrong. Editing partitions and installing operating systems is risky, so you should backup your Windows before going ahead. Just in case.

    -o-

    Did you only shrink the partition, or did you also create any new partitions? In other words, is there still a big unallocated space on your HDD?

    In that case the installer finds it and assumes that it should install Lubuntu there (creating a root partition and a swap partition).

    Furthermore, if you have only one internal drive, the bootloader should be installed into the head of it (/dev/sda), which is indicated in the linked picture, so it is OK.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    Ya I shrunk the partition and there is a big unallocated space on my HDD. When I try and press install thought it says, "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu"? What should I do?

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    uncoordinated; Hi !

    Are you setting up your partitions manually ? If so .. best my poor memory recalls ..
    In that "partitioning menu" press change (lower left)->formatting page; format set to ext4 (my suggestion), and the "use as" of the partition as / (only the '/' slash character as that character means "root"; verify the size and you may give the partition a label - root - type literally here the word root./// A sticky point ... how many partitions are set up on this hard drive ? In the older partitioning scheme one can only have 4 partitions max... if three are taken up by Windows .. then the partition to hold ubuntu must be made as an extented partition consuming the unallocated space ... then within this extended 4th partition one may make as may "logical" partitions as one needs or wants. The partitions / and swap as a minimum. So if that extended partition is in existence as that 4th partition .. then both / and swap are created within that extended partition as "logical" partitions. Set the type field as logical for both / and swap ....for the swap partition set the format to "swap".
    Make sure all the above is set and continue installation... the installer should now be happy.

    I do not recall if one has the option "install along side of" another operating system with the lubuntu installer ... I have always set up my partitions in GParted first and installed "manually" and just never paid much attention to other install options.

    The above procedure has worked several times for me. I hope it it clear and correct enough to get you over this spot.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    uncoordinated; Hi !

    Are you setting up your partitions manually ? If so .. best my poor memory recalls ..
    In that "partitioning menu" press change (lower left)->formatting page; format set to ext4 (my suggestion), and the "use as" of the partition as / (only the '/' slash character as that character means "root"; verify the size and you may give the partition a label - root - type literally here the word root./// A sticky point ... how many partitions are set up on this hard drive ? In the older partitioning scheme one can only have 4 partitions max... if three are taken up by Windows .. then the partition to hold ubuntu must be made as an extented partition consuming the unallocated space ... then within this extended 4th partition one may make as may "logical" partitions as one needs or wants. The partitions / and swap as a minimum. So if that extended partition is in existence as that 4th partition .. then both / and swap are created within that extended partition as "logical" partitions. Set the type field as logical for both / and swap ....for the swap partition set the format to "swap".
    Make sure all the above is set and continue installation... the installer should now be happy.

    I do not recall if one has the option "install along side of" another operating system with the lubuntu installer ... I have always set up my partitions in GParted first and installed "manually" and just never paid much attention to other install options.

    The above procedure has worked several times for me. I hope it it clear and correct enough to get you over this spot.
    I be try'n to help
    I would like to do the partitioning just the easy way, but it skips the step where I can choose to install alongside windows and goes to the custom option(i think). It is really annoying and I just want to do it the easy way

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    If you do it like this, we can be sure it will work:

    1. Start gparted again and create an extended partition using all unallocated space.

    2. Create a swap partiton of slightly more than your RAM if you plan to hibernate. Otherwise you can have less swap than RAM, but I suggest at least 1 GB anyway.

    3. Use the rest of the space (in the extended partition) for an ext4 partition.

    4. Start the installer again and at the partitioning page, select 'Something else' which means manual partitioning.

    5. Select the new ext4 partition to be used as / (root partition).

    6. Check that the bootloader will will be installed to /dev/sda (the head of sda, only letters no digit)

    7. Swap will be selected automatically, so now you can continue from the partitioning page ...

    This should work if you have at least 768 MB RAM. Otherwise you might need to start the installer directly from the boot menu (or change to the alternate iso file).

    Good luck

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    I have recently done this. I shrank my windows partition by 100GB, restarted windows to confirm it was all ok, put in the live CD, booted into ubuntu then hit install.

    The selection "install alongside windows" will automatically pick that unused partition and install ubuntu there..iirc you may need to confirm that specific partition in the setup prompts, but this will give you a dual boot machine, so give you a boot choice of ubuntu/windows 7 without any detailed involvement on your part.

    none of the above conflicts with the extra technical detail given above..thats all recommended good stuff, just not required...

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoordinated View Post
    My computer has a 1TB HDD that had one big NTFS partition for Windows. I have managed to shrink that partition in half in gparted in the live session of lubuntu that I am running so have of the space is unallocated. I was following a guide to installing lubuntu alongside windows and in one of the steps you pick if you want to install alongside windows, over windows, or do something else for some reason mine skipped that step and goes straight to this.

    How should I proceed? I would like to install lubuntu in the unallocated space that I created.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    The only thing is that it won't let me click install alongside windows so I'm just going to follow sudodus' steps and see what happens.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    OK I'm just going to write what I did so if anything happens you guys canfigure out what I did incorrectly because I am fairly new to this.

    1. Created extended partition with all the unallocated space.

    2. Created Logical Partition with File System as "linux-swap" with 1 mb of free space preceding, a new size of 2.5Gb(I have 2 gb of ram) and a following free space of 474432Mb.

    3. Created Logical Partition with File System of ext4 with rest of unallocated space with 1mb of free space preceding.

    4. So I went throught the installer and it skipped the page where you chose install alongside windows or over it AGAIN anth it went to this page http://imgur.com/NEkzYzT. It is sooo frustrating I try and press the plus button or minus button or even the change button and it just crashes.

    I should have said it earlier, but it gives me these errors when I go into gparted, but I was able to just press cancel 3 times so I didn't worry about them. Now I have a feeling it must be related to my problems.

    Could not stat device /dev/mapper/ddf1: virtual drives with CRC 449B3D65, expected 887D7C20 on /dev/sda - No such file or directory.
    Could not stat device /dev/mapper/ddf1: physical drives with CRC 97FA6A4A, expected B97A44DD on /dev/sda - No such file or directory.
    Could not stat device /dev/mapper/ddf1: VD CFG with CRC 681D7C6F, expected 9D459FFD on /dev/sda - No such file or directory.

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    Re: Trouble installing lubuntu alongside Windows XP

    /dev/mapper/ddf1 is either RAID or LVM.

    Are you installing with encryption as that uses LVM?
    Are you using BIOS RAID with Windows?
    Are you not using RAID but drive was RAID before? Then you can remove RAID meta-data from drive.

    Standard desktop installer does not include RAID. Older versions alternative installer or server installer have RAID as an option.
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair - Updated Mar 2015:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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