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    Question First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    I'll just list up my needs so as not to waste anyone's time:

    1) I am not building a NAS.
    2) I am not a Gamer; I use my computers for work.
    3) I just want on-line networked storage of my work (Develop educational materials and curricula for gifted students)
    4) My work computers are Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate - no plans for any MS upgrades (I read a lot and therefore consider MS to have lost its way http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74 (succinct article)

    Hardware:
    1) Gigabit network - D-Link DGL-4100 Router, two Netgear unmanaged switches
    2) Server: Corsair HAF case; Corsair 650/80 PSU, ASUS M5A97 EVO Motherboard; AMD 6-Core CPU; 16 GB Corsair RAM; Syba 6 GB/s 4-port SATA card; 128 GB Samsung SSD (OS); 5 X 3 TB Western Digital Caviar Green hdd's. (storage)
    Note: I prefer WD Greens cause they power down when not in use - again not a traditional NAS that would require WD Reds.

    Can anyone be kind enough to give me some links, etc. to get started?
    Note: I have been building, repairing and using computers for business for 25 years - but only DOS and Windows; Certifiably ignorant when it comes to Ubuntu.

    Thank you. I know you guys to be especially kind to fresh-faced Newbies.

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    Re: First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    Use whatever OS or desktop works for you. Backup your computer regularly, and definitely before updating, upgrading, or partitioning.

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    Re: First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    Hugely appreciated. I'll get started there.

    Thank you for responding, and for being so kind in doing so.

    Technology is just changing so fast; and quite honestly I can't keep up.

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    So I'm guessing that because my server will be networked to both Linux and Win 7 workstations, Ubuntu Server 12.04.2 LTS alone will not suffice? It needs Samba as well?
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    I would wait for other responses. I am an old retired guy. There may be something newer and better.

    I don't think Samba is installed by default. I think you have to install it. Either way, you still have to configure it.
    Last edited by Old_Grey_Wolf; June 30th, 2013 at 10:55 PM.
    Use whatever OS or desktop works for you. Backup your computer regularly, and definitely before updating, upgrading, or partitioning.

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    Re: First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    If you're looking for a quick and easy solution for file sharing then I wouldn't use Ubuntu. Instead take a look at FreeNAS.

    You say you're not looking to build a NAS but that's exactly what a file sharing server is.

    Quote Originally Posted by incurablegeek View Post
    1) I am not building a NAS.
    3) I just want on-line networked storage of my work
    Sounds like Network Attached Storage to me
    Last edited by Cheesemill; June 30th, 2013 at 11:09 PM.
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    No sir, I am definitely not looking for NAS.

    At the risk of sounding presumptuous or going into lots of irrelevant detail, I know quite a bit about NAS. More importantly, I understand why the architecture of NAS is wrong for my needs.

    No sir, after much extensive study I can tell you two things I will never use: NAS and RAID.

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    @Old_Grey_Wolf
    Please don't depreciate yourself so. You are not old; you are experienced.

    I don't think Samba is installed by default. I think you have to install it. Either way, you still have to configure it.
    OK, I can respect your opinion that I need some form of "overlay" on Ubuntu Server but I don't understand why. I would assume that the Ubuntu server would see my files as "raw data" and not care if they are stored as FAT, NTFS, or ever ReFS. Is that the reason, OGF?

    Since FAT, NTFS and ReFS are simply hard drive formats, I am guessing they are irrelevant to Ubuntu server. What apparently Samba is, just guessing mind you, is an interpreter or translator of Windows File Extensions. So what happens if some of my work is done on Ubuntu (which I will migrate to) and some of the legacy work is on Windows, can both be stored on hard drives managed by Ubuntu Server?

    Trust me. I shall be reading much more on this so as not to be a drain on you guys.

    ...............

    Note to all: My question is how to set up an Ubuntu File Server for on-site storage. Technically all my computers presently do that via the network. However, I want centralized storage as well, so I can keep better track of my work.

    What I do not need is to get derailed by being told I need something else, don't know what I really need, etc. Please. I know you folks mean well but I do know what I need.
    Last edited by incurablegeek; July 1st, 2013 at 02:01 AM.

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    Please disregard my question. I'm just going to do things the easy way.

    Thanks for your efforts. You guys are wonderful.
    Last edited by Iowan; July 1st, 2013 at 02:14 AM. Reason: normalize font

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    Re: First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    Quote Originally Posted by incurablegeek View Post
    Please disregard my question. I'm just going to do things the easy way.

    Thanks for your efforts. You guys are wonderful.
    What is the easy way?

    If you are really looking for some sort of centralized file storage, and you aren't interested in RAID, what else would you be using?

    I have found this pretty interesting:
    http://zackreed.me/articles/72-snapraid-on-ubuntu-12-04

    Maybe it will help you, even though you have said you are going to do it the "easy" way without specifying what way that is.
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    Re: First Build Ubuntu - File Storage/Server

    My apologies Charles A for not responding sooner.

    The "easy way" is just to install Win 7 64 bit Ultimate, which will contain all the hard drives for centralized record keeping, as opposed to having my files backed up willy-nilly on multiple hard drives throughout the network.

    The only thing that made me take Microsoft seriously was the new file system ReFS, which is in MS Server 2012 and can be added on to Windows 8. From what I have read (volumes) ReFS is a real improvement over NTFS which came out in 1993 and has served us well.

    However,

    1) Doing so would just postpone the move to Linux (Ubuntu) which I have been planning to make for a couple of years now.

    2) Learning Server 2012 has absolutely no transfer value for me in e-commerce, because Linux is the Big Dog there.

    3) Windows 8 is an embarrassment, so there is also no value in learning it.

    4) Using Linux as a server looks like it's just going to further distract me from my actual work - educational materials development.

    Now although I need something "quick and dirty", and Windows 7 is actually very nice mind you, using Win 7 in lieu of Linux only postpones the inevitable, i.e. learning Linux by using it, not reading about it.

    After weeks of reading, I now fully understand:

    1) the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of NAS, so that's out. NAS is more for the AV enthusiast actually.
    2) that RAID to know that it is only for people with too much time on their hands for problem solving. Even at it's best RAID offers me nothing.

    And, no, I am not interested in debating why the above two are wrong for my needs. I have thrashed that about on other forums and with my tech friends, quite good ones in hardware (not Linux).

    What I do have an exceedingly open mind to is how I can file exchange on my network with my single (for now) Ubuntu Linux desktop. That's the direction my reading will take me for awhile.
    Last edited by sandyd; July 1st, 2013 at 11:31 PM. Reason: Removed unnecessary MS Slang/Names/Etc

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