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  1. #51
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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Unfortunately not.

    I've been too busy lately to follow this up in other forums but do plan to. If you learn the secret then please let me know! I've been thinking that it isn't worth me wasting any more time on and that I should buy a cheap Nvidia card on ebay. Still, I don't really have the money to spend right now...

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Thanks for the reply 00Kell,

    I have given up on the ATI card <and I have 2 of them >. Numerous forums have indicated that older ATI cards have poor drivers <from a TV standpoint> and there is no intension on improving them. I'm looking for an nvida card as well.

    Cheers,
    Thorarin Bjarnason

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Hi, and big thanks for the tip. I am running feisty fawn, so the drivers versions for gatos do not match with this how-to however, this one :

    http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout

    uses the latest radeon drivers to compile a tv-out capable driver. It works fine here.

    Moreover, I had some issues (like others did in previous threads) with black borders around the screen, but there is actually a small and convenient utility provided in the patched driver : you need to compile the tvo_set utility (see README.tvout in the SRC folder, section 5) which helps a lot solving overscan issues etc...

    (for the record, I have a Radeon 9200 SE)

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    I am using Feisty and trying to setup TV out on a radeon 7200 (r100). I'm gonna give the guide from the last post a shot.
    - Captain John Yossarian

    Speak frankly, speak in French.

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    I'm running Feisty. I've followed the last guide posted here, but when I get into a 800x600 resolution the monitor gets out of range, and display a 'non supported mode' message. Trying to force a particular range in xorg.conf (60 or 50Hz) doesn't work either. If I disable EDID info, it brings a corrupted display on the monitor, but still TVoutput (PAL) remains blank. I've tried both with DVI and VGA plug. TV is attached via S-Video.

    I've checked the Xorg.0.log and it seems that theather out is working via TVoutput PAL option.

    Any idea?

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    This is a follow-up to my last post.

    My TV is setup as a second monitor. It works except for a few problems:

    - New windows usually open on the TV. I don't want this, as I will not always have the TV on. I'm guessing there's some sort of GNOME setting to fix this
    - If I fullscreen VLC it opens the fullsceen on the monitor, even if VLC was running on the TV. Totem doesn't do this, so I'm guessing I'll have to play with VLCs settings somehow
    - The screen resolution utility from the top menu shows an error saying "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available." I don't really care, but I imagine the fix is just to renable whatever XRandR is in my config file.

    I'll post a followup if I manage to fix any of the problems. Here's my xorg.conf if anyone wants an example of TV out or multi-monitor (or both). The files comments are sparse, and I was a little lame with the naming ("Screen 1", "Screen 2", etc). To use the below config file you must have patched the 'ati' driver as per the guide in this thread. Otherwise the TVout option will do nothing.

    Code:
    # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
    #
    # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
    # values from the debconf database.
    #
    # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf(5) manual page.
    # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
    #
    # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
    # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
    # package.
    #
    # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
    # again, run the following command:
    #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
    
    Section "Files"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
    	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
    	# path to defoma fonts
    	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Module"
    	Load	"i2c"
    	Load	"bitmap"
    	Load	"ddc"
    	Load	"dri"
    	Load	"extmod"
    	Load	"freetype"
    	Load	"glx"
    	Load	"int10"
    	Load	"vbe"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
    	Driver		"kbd"
    	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
    	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
    	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"
    	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
    	Driver		"mouse"
    	Option		"CorePointer"
    	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
    	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
    	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
    	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Driver		"wacom"
    	Identifier	"stylus"
    	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"
    	Option		"Type"		"stylus"
    	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Driver		"wacom"
    	Identifier	"eraser"
    	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"
    	Option		"Type"		"eraser"
    	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Driver		"wacom"
    	Identifier	"cursor"
    	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"
    	Option		"Type"		"cursor"
    	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
    	Driver		"i810"
    	BusID		"PCI:0:1:0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
    	Identifier	"Radeon 7200"
    	Driver		"ati"
    	BusID		"PCI:1:8:0"
    	Option "TVOutput" "NTSC"    #<---------Important line here
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
    	Option		"DPMS"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor" 
       	 Identifier "Television" 
        	HorizSync 30 - 50           #<---------Important line here
        	VertRefresh 60 - 60         #<---------Important line here
        	Option "DPMS" 
    EndSection
    
    # Main screen: Intel video card with a CRT monitor
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier	"Screen 1"
    	Device		"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
    	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
    	DefaultDepth	24
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		1
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		4
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		8
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		15
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		16
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Depth		24
    		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    # Auxilary screen with a radeon 7200 video card and a television
    Section "Screen" 
        Identifier "Screen 2" 
        Device "Radeon 7200" 
        Monitor "Television" 
        DefaultDepth 24             #<---------Important line here
        SubSection "Display"        #<---------Important line here
             Depth 24               #<---------Important line here
             Modes "800x600"        #<---------Important line here
        EndSubSection               #<---------Important line here
     EndSection
    
    # Serverlayout uses both screens
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier	"Default Layout"
    	Screen		"Screen 1"
    	Screen		"Screen 2" RightOf "Screen 1"
    	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
    	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
    	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"
    	Option          "Xinerama"      "on"
    	Option "Clone" "off"
    EndSection
    
    Section "DRI"
    	Mode	0666
    EndSection
    - Captain John Yossarian

    Speak frankly, speak in French.

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Thank you to all of you who have been working on this. I have a Rage 128 PRO All-In-Wonder. I installed GATOS, and could only get an occasional blur on the screen. I know that the card and wiring is correct because the BIOS boot up screen is displayed on the TV. I followed the steps on this forum, including the updated version for Edgy, but is still does not work. I installed AtiTVOut, and it says that the TV is connected and working, but I can't get anything to display on it.

    I tried to install the ATI drivers that are explained on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide . After I installed this, X would not load, but the text based loggin screen was displayed on both the TV and my CRT. Any advice?


    Thanks

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Originally posted by dread45153
    Thank you to all of you who have been working on this. I have a Rage 128 PRO All-In-Wonder. I installed GATOS, and could only get an occasional blur on the screen. I know that the card and wiring is correct because the BIOS boot up screen is displayed on the TV. I followed the steps on this forum, including the updated version for Edgy, but is still does not work. I installed AtiTVOut, and it says that the TV is connected and working, but I can't get anything to display on it.

    I tried to install the ATI drivers that are explained on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubu...allation_Guide . After I installed this, X would not load, but the text based loggin screen was displayed on both the TV and my CRT. Any advice?


    Thanks
    It seems like your driver is patched correctly, but your X config is broken.

    I would backup your old X config
    Code:
     sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKUP
    to a file called xorg.conf.BACKUP, and then run
    Code:
    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
    to reset your X config to something that works. If your monitor works correctly after this, but your TV does not, manually edit xorg.conf again and switch it to use the driver you patched.
    - Captain John Yossarian

    Speak frankly, speak in French.

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    Quote Originally Posted by jkwarras View Post
    I'm running Feisty. I've followed the last guide posted here, but when I get into a 800x600 resolution the monitor gets out of range, and display a 'non supported mode' message. Trying to force a particular range in xorg.conf (60 or 50Hz) doesn't work either. If I disable EDID info, it brings a corrupted display on the monitor, but still TVoutput (PAL) remains blank. I've tried both with DVI and VGA plug. TV is attached via S-Video.

    I've checked the Xorg.0.log and it seems that theather out is working via TVoutput PAL option.

    Any idea?
    I see in the gatos site that

    Theater_out only works on cards having a 27 MHz reference frequency. All the radeon cards I had a chance to examine have this frequency, so this limitation should not be an issue.
    That's exactly what I get on my LCD monitor "non supported mode" for a range of "H: 24.9 Hz // V: 22.1 Hz", which makes me think that the monitor is trying to display a 27 MHz range and for some reason it doesn't support it. Any ideas how to solve this? I mean, avoid the monitor to get out of range. Other modes like 640x480 works.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by jkwarras; May 10th, 2007 at 11:31 PM.

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    Re: HOWTO: TV-out for legacy ATI cards using GATOS

    I found that the simplest way to get my tv-out working again with 7.04 was to switch to the vesa X-driver. I only tried this after trying a few other options, including getting the GATOS patch to apply and compile with xorg 7.2.0! I blogged the details at http://wargle.blogspot.com/2007/05/s...-out-with.html. It even gave me a significant improvement in CPU usage when playing video (xv mode was busted for me on the old ATI drivers).

    Hope this helps someone.

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