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    Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    This weekend, I took delivery of a new Asus Ultrabook, and I installed ubuntu 13.04 side by side with windows 8, from a pendrive. All seemed to be going well, a restart of the system allowed me to boot into windows or ubuntu from a GRUB menu.

    I tried to install the jdk6 from sun, and even though the PATH, JAVA_HOME looked all set, I kept getting the following message when trying to compile code:

    The program 'javac' can be found in the following packages: ... a list of pacakges.

    Now when I even try to edit .profile I get:
    The program 'vi' can be found in the following packages:

    Everything seems to have gone wrong!

    Also, when restarting my PC, and selecting the windows option, a EFI path is not found, so the only way I can book into windows is through the bios.

    Please help.

    The laptop has two hard drives, 1x500gb where windows 8 resides, and I put ubuntu on a separate 1x25gb SSD, I need to obviously get these problems nailed one by one, but first off is there an easy way just to wipe ubuntu and reinstall a fresh copy?

    Thanks

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    Welcome to the Ubuntu Forums

    Please try Boot-Repair according to these links

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...7#post10871917

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    I would get your issues booting Windows nailed down first. Then, you should be able to use the USB stick you installed with to reinstall Ubuntu. (If it's not one of the default options, you can choose to do something else, and then reformat the Ext4 as ext4 and set it as "/".)
    Jane, stop this crazy thing!

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    I don't understand why you think you need to reinstall the entire system just because you can't edit your .profile with vi - just use a different editor (nano, gedit)

    Of course you can install vi (or vim) if you really want to but it's by no means necessary

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    Hi

    things have gone from bad to worst, after running the boot repair, i tried to resinstall ubuntu and changed the bios to load from the f: (pendrive) which it did, but at the end of the reinstall a message popped up saying fatal error unable to find boot loader on this partition, so i went through the entire list of the available partitions, all came back with the same error. It posted a logging message to ubuntu dev, but now when I restarted,

    I cant even get into the bios, to change its boot priority, and I get this message:

    error: no such device: 16545e06-... . ... .
    grub rescue>


    I saw a post on this and types ls, which returns:
    (hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt5) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd20 (hd2,gpt4) (hd2,gpt3) (hd2,gpt2) (hd2,gpt1)

    An ls on all of these returns:
    error: unknown filesystem.

    What can I do? I cant even get into the bios, it wont boot from the pendrive...????

    Anybody know how I can get this grub rescue to rescue something?

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    Did you turn off secure boot?
    Did you turn off fast boot or hibernation in Windows.
    Some systems only get to UEFI/BIOS from Windows, so if Windows does not boot....

    UEFI/BIOS Boot keys - about halfway down on this Microsoft page
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...ows-to-go.aspx

    If you can get back into Ubuntu live installer, add Boot-Repair again and post link to BootInfo report. Then we can make better suggestions.

    Post the link to the BootInfo report that this creates. Is part of Boot-Repair:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
    For more info on UEFI boot install & repair - Regularly Updated :
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    Yes you have big problems.

    - But before doing too much, I suggest that you try to back up at least your personal data (if you have stored any such data yet. If you don't have a backup of the Windows system, you should back up that too (or the whole drive) for example with Clonezilla.

    I am surprised that you can't even get into the bios, because that should happen before any operating system is started, and it should be independent of Ubuntu.

    - Try again, and see if you can get Windows started

    - Maybe it is best to reinstall Ubuntu, but wait and let oldfred help you.

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    some good news, I managed to get into the bios, and then set a boot from the windows boot.
    this allowed me to enter windows, but i couldnt refresh, or reset the pc, hard disk was locked.
    i used the ms dos prompt to activate the locked hard disk, and then on a reboot i could get windows to reset.


    pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!

    dont worry about backing up personal data, its a brand new pc, and all my valuables are on my pendrive!

    so, once my windows has reset, im going to have another try to get ubuntu back on there.

    can anyone explain the easiest way to do this.

    as i say, last time, i loaded for usb, selected install alongside windows 8, but on doing so, i could only boot into ubuntu from grub.

    also, i want to put ubuntu on my second hard disk, my main hard disk is windows 500gb, and have a smaller 25gb sdd hard disk, but i found the disk partioning setup in the ubunti installation very confusing. sda1,2,3,4,5 etc, the one that pointed to the 25gb sdd, when selected would not let me add to that node.

    i am a noob, obviously this is new territory, but, some sites go on and on about uefi, and windows 8, some guys contradict others that ubuntu can be deployed out of the box to run alongside windows 8, and some say you have to disable uefi, which as a noob, i opted for the former, not the latter.

    so can anyone offer the best way, starting completely fresh, whats the best way to get ubuntu onto my pc, on the 2nd hard disk, alongside windows 8....

    thanks in advance

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    see my latest post, any of your sagely help would be greatly appreciated. this uefi stuff, doesit need to be swithed off, i installed last time without tampering with it, but as i say, then in starting up, grub didnt show an option for botting windows.

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    Re: Help, its all gone wrong! A ubuntu newbie!

    If Windows is in UEFI mode then you need to have Ubuntu in UEFI mode. If you were just booting Ubuntu then it probably was just in BIOS mode not UEFI.
    How you boot installer is how it installs. Or if you boot in BIOS mode then it installs in BIOS mode.

    See link in my signature for a lot of the standard UEFI info and a couple of links to details with screen shots. If an UltraBook you have the added complications of dual video & Intel SRT which are separate from UEFI but create install issues.

    What model Asus? One model so far has not been able to dual boot with UEFI. Or only installs and works in BIOS mode. The issue is only the video and how UEFI reports it so Asus should have a UEFI/BIOS update for that mode.
    Asus K55N just does not boot Ubuntu in UEFI mode. Some things to try, but no solution
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2137233

    Other Asus have worked.

    [SOLVED] Dual Boot on Asus K55vd SX696H - 8 GB (Solved) EFI
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2151394
    Asus N56VJ-SH71-CD Shows default Windows partitions Post #25 install instructions
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2105622
    ASUS K55A Windows 8 & Ubuntu Some Asus need this boot parameter pci=nomsi
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088499
    Asus x202e dual boot Win 8 full and Ubuntu post #13
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092966
    Asus UltraBook - kernel comparisons K56CA
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTMzOTI
    Asus Zenbook Prime UX31A (UEFI) Blank screen resolved by turning secure boot off, many tests of Boot parameters
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2086054
    For more info on UEFI boot install & repair - Regularly Updated :
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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