Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 55

Thread: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Fairhope al
    Beans
    4
    Distro
    Ubuntu

    Question Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code? Does the NSA have special backdoors to Ubuntu or even the Linux Kernel? After I found out that the NSA has had special backdoors to the Windows OS, I've been worried that Ubuntu might also have these same backdoors for the NSA. I understand that SELinux is a contribution from the NSA which some have claimed to be legitimate. Even if the NSA does not have direct access to Ubuntu, does Ubuntu save and send my data to there servers?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Vancouver Canada
    Beans
    3,136
    Distro
    Xubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Hi killa7.

    Microsoft was taken to court, for that info.

    You should worry more about your ISP being forced to turn over info.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nsa+isp+snooping&t=canonical

    Also this.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-kong/2447665/
    Last edited by hansdown; June 22nd, 2013 at 07:20 AM.
    I learn something ubuntu everyday.
    dell precision T7500 1Tb hdd x 2
    2.67 Ghz intel xeon X5550 cpu
    nvidia quadro fx 4800-1.5 Gb video card

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Mystletainn Kick!
    Beans
    4,247
    Distro
    Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    You can look at the code yourself.

    The source is always available to see on a default Ubuntu.

    Therein lies the difference between Ubuntu and Windows.
    Splat Double Splat Triple Splat
    Earn Your Keep
    Don't mind me, I'm only passing through.
    Once in a blue moon, I'm actually helpful
    .

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Beans
    457

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    "You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment" http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Beans
    1,374
    Distro
    Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    No ubuntu user will "check" the kernel code. Sorry. It is all about trust. Really.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Beans
    322
    Distro
    Xubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Regarding SELinux, as I understand the story it definitely does have 'NSA code' since the NSA and the open source community developed it jointly. But the key is 'open source'. Nothing is hidden. The community had/has access to every bit of source code, in fact creating some/most of it. A little difficult to hide anything under those circumstances. As deadflower pointed out, the same is true of the rest of Ubuntu/Red Hat/Slackware/CentOS/etc. since it/they is/are open source. A little difficult to hide something nefarious. Now, I will not personally guarantee that there is not malicious code anywhere since I am not a programmer and have not personally checked every line of code. But considering that there are thousands of people who are and who have, what do you think are the odds? And you and I DO have the right to check the source code (and compile it all) ourselves if we wish to. Now there are privacy policies explaining what information is gathered if we use certain services. However, use of those services is not required and is not built into the basic code. If the gathering of that information is a problem, don't use the service. This is one of the major strengths of 'open source' and why, I believe, it will eventually displace our current concept of proprietary code. It is a matter of trust. Do you really TRUST Microsoft and Apple? I don't under today's circumstances especially since I don't have to.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Al Ain
    Beans
    7,910

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Not directly to the NSA no - however, Canonical does collect data about your search terms and those gets sent to third party advertizers, which may be snooped on by 5 different three letter agencies and 10 criminal syndicates. Instead of worrying about the NSA, I am more concerned about the latter.

    So, if you are running vanilla Ubuntu with Unity, consider changing to Xubuntu or Kubuntu, since default Ubuntu is basically spyware in the Google Analytics and Microsoft Alexa tradition.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Beans
    457

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    killa7,
    To amplify upon the above point raised by HermanAB you might consider looking through "How Dozens of Companies Know You're Reading About Those NSA Leaks" to be found on the EFF.org site as it illustrates the extent of third party data gathering.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Beans
    29

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Quote Originally Posted by HermanAB View Post
    Not directly to the NSA no - however, Canonical does collect data about your search terms and those gets sent to third party advertizers, which may be snooped on by 5 different three letter agencies and 10 criminal syndicates. Instead of worrying about the NSA, I am more concerned about the latter.

    So, if you are running vanilla Ubuntu with Unity, consider changing to Xubuntu or Kubuntu, since default Ubuntu is basically spyware in the Google Analytics and Microsoft Alexa tradition.
    Or you can just disable the online functionality if your that worried about it.

    Anyways, I don't really think its possible for Ubuntu to have government issued back doors like Windows simply for being open source, if there was we would have a massive compliant about it and Ubuntu will die and people will switch to other Distros.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Fairhope al
    Beans
    4
    Distro
    Ubuntu

    Re: Does Ubuntu have malicious NSA code?

    Wow thanks for the great responses! Question. All of the information that Ubuntu collects, is that just Unity related? Is it as simple as changing the desktop environment?

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •