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    Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Hello,

    Finally decided to get serious about trying to find an alternative solution to the product from Redmond. Vista, Windows 7 have helped push me in that direction
    I have a small home network for the family. The only real issue is limiting some access to the kids, which I can do with the router
    So security is very low priority. Particularly so, on the box that I am currently using for trying out distros
    I have installed Lubuntu 13.04 (64 bit) Only one user identified on it
    I am constantly being annoyed with slightly different pop-ups asking to authenticate for just about anything I want to do..
    - mount a drive.. - Authenticate
    - check for updates.. - Authenticate
    - take a peek into some directory.. - Authenticate
    - Scratch my nose.. - Authent.. well not yet.. but I'm getting nervous..

    This is the same kind of nonsense that annoyed the hell out of me using Windows. But at least I can eliminate it by turning off Defender
    Is there ANY way, to silence this nonsense in Lubuntu. ?
    Or is there some Ubuntu variant that is not this paranoid ?

    Note that I have also tried Puppy Linux, and I don't have the constant requests to "Authenticate". But Puppy has other issues, such as being way too minimalist for my needs

    Thanks

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    As far as I know, Puppy is more like a single-user system and everything is run under the root account. Usually, Linux is implemented as multi-user system. In order to prevent normal users to do harm to the system, their accounts are non-privileged and their rights are usually restricted to their home folder.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

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    Last edited by ahallubuntu; June 24th, 2013 at 01:25 AM.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ahallubuntu View Post
    Try this (bottom of the page):

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
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    Thanks for your prompt response..

    This clearly is for running sudo in a terminal.
    How does this apply to doing minor and ordinary things in the GUI ?
    Actions that frankly are perfectly ordinary actions for just using the OS.

    I REALLY do NOT see ANY advantage with constantly having to enter a password on a private computer in a private location,on a test machine,
    I REALLY REALLY do not need or want such a high security level.
    Last edited by NuxNik; June 18th, 2013 at 05:24 PM.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Only the root user can make administrative changes, so you need to accept that fact to begin with.

    You can run as the root user all the time, but if you make a mistake you can render your system unusable. Unless you have a couple of years of experience as a Unix admin, this is not an attractive option.

    Let's talk about a couple of things you mentioned. First is mounting devices. If you have drives you want to mount at boot, you should enter them into /etc/fstab. Other types of devices like USB drives you can mount as an ordinary user, though you may be the only one who can see the device.

    Updating the machine's software is a task that always requires root privileges. Windows users cannot muck about in the registry without administrative privileges either. The fact that ordinary Windows users could once install software on their own without admin privileges or, in earlier versions, without even a warning is the reason why there are millions of compromised machines on the Internet sending spam to every email server on earth every day.

    There are few directories on the system that an ordinary user cannot look into, however they cannot make any changes to the directory's contents. What directories are you specifically blocked from viewing without root privileges?
    If you ask for help, please have the courtesy to check for responses and thank the people who helped you.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    As stated, this is test box.
    That means that I clone my partition.
    If I mess up. I clone it back

    Frankly, I'm flat out annoyed, that I'm forced into terminal commands for simple tasks like moving or copying files because an horrible security setup if constantly coming up with new ways to use "permission denied" for even simple tasks like moving my OWN FILES, on a 1 user box that no one else is acessing.

    So do you have a solution ?
    If not, thanks for your last input..
    Last edited by lisati; June 19th, 2013 at 10:27 PM. Reason: Please keep your language family friendly

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Hello!

    Are you saying that you are being asked to authenticate if you are moving files within the confines of your home directory?

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    Hello!

    Are you saying that you are being asked to authenticate if you are moving files within the confines of your home directory?
    That was essentially the question I asked.

    As a ordinary user, you can only write to /home/username and to /tmp. Everywhere else requires root privileges unless you change the permissions on the appropriate directories accordingly.

    As I said, if you want to write anything anywhere, then become the root user.
    If you ask for help, please have the courtesy to check for responses and thank the people who helped you.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    Are you saying that you are being asked to authenticate if you are moving files within the confines of your home directory?

    I'm not sure, but it appears so.
    For example I have a memory stick that is my repository of just about everything I want to keep, including ISOs.
    I was trying to copy some downloaded ISOs from ~/>me</Downloads to media/>me</[memory stick}/xx/ISOs.
    Frankly, since I'm the only user & Administrator on this box, being required to Authenticate is redundant
    What's the point of a GUI if it constantly tells you're not authorized, and forces you to do everything manually in a terminal

    I like GUI..Having worked decades in non-gui environments, they're the best thing since sliced bread, cell phones, shrinking electronics, >place your favorite recent improvement here<.
    The're supposed to make your life easier and not force limits on you
    These kind of limitations kill the benefit of the GUI.

    I've run lots of stuff from "consoles"
    Been there, done that, don't 'want to go back there.

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    Re: Authenticate, Authenticate,... Can I scratch my nose without Authenticate ?

    Try this in your GUI:

    Create a text file in your home directory. Create a new folder in home. Try to move the text file to the new folder.

    If any of those operations fails, let us know.

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