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    Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    Yesterday I did someting to my OS. It must now be re-installed. I run the (Ubuntu default) "Backup" and have saved my work. But, when I netsearched for the keywords:

    livecd, ubuntu, backup

    I get both misleading and some out-of-date information on the web.

    My point here is that "Backup" is not a useful name for a program that is the Ubuntu default installation. It was called Deja-Dup.

    Gedit is not called: editor

    This needs to change. How about BackBuntu or Backup-dup

    something unique so it show up in internet and forum searches.
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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    What exactly were you searching for?

    I just search for "ubuntu backup" and I found this

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem

    What do you wish to do?
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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    As I read it you prove his point with that search result. If you google for backup + Ubuntu hoping to get results on the specific backup tool called "Backup" you get a generic page explaining various backup solutions and terminology. If the tool has a different name than a generic term like backup it's easier to search for help with that specific tool.
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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    Q.e.d.
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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    I am guessing Michael Terry is of French ancestry. I think Canadian, so quite possibly the name has to do with Deja-vu "already seen" and duplicity. A nice play on words. But, in fairness, I agree with the OP.

    I use "Back in Time".

    The name seems more appropriate to my celtic ancestory, I guess.

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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_in_Hollywood View Post
    My point here is that "Backup" is not a useful name for a program that is the Ubuntu default installation. It was called Deja-Dup.
    The same argument applies to the default Ubuntu social networking app "Gwibber" changing it's name recently to "Friends". I disagree with this also.

    I guess this is all part of the arrogant Ubuntu play for the Linux desktop.

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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    Keeping It Simple should not also keep-it-konfused (not dissing KDE here, only making a play on words.
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    Re: Problems caused by changing the name "Deja-Dup"

    Quote Originally Posted by markbl View Post
    The same argument applies to the default Ubuntu social networking app "Gwibber" changing it's name recently to "Friends". I disagree with this also.

    I guess this is all part of the arrogant Ubuntu play for the Linux desktop.
    A curiosity, but all screenshots of Deja-Dup I can find really do seem to be running under Ubuntu, yet it's listed on GNOME Live!. There is not, for instance, a similar page at https://live.gnome.org/Unity . = )

    In any case, it's Gnome, not Ubuntu, pushing the trend. gedit is still gedit with a launcher that calls it Text Editor, but Nautilus is Files and Totem is Videos all the way down to their About pages and each just happen to run by a different command. Disk Usage Analyzer is Baobab on its About page, but nowhere else. Rhythmbox is Rhythmbox, but Gnome is switching to a music player called Music.

    Deja-Dup does identify itself as such in a welcome screen on first run, but since it's part of System Settings, it's treated as the "Backup" page thereof and has no About page.

    I actually think it's less about arrogance (most of the apps at least have unique project names even if the user never sees them) and more about a (forced, certainly) simplicity. Presumably Gnome assumes that KDE users could just as easily be using Amarok and calling it Music and not care which app is really running. It does reflect a Not Built Here tendency, but that's so inherent in Gnome's ethos that I don't think it's evidence of any particular new nastiness.

    I much prefer elementary's approach to naming.
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