Installing on old hardware

[Mark Scott]

AAAAARGH ! I promise I had tried this earlier. I promise you it did not work. I think it works now beacuse I was playing around in terminal following some simple command training (ls cd pwd) etc. and one of the commands changed the account from a # to a $. The question now is why when I first sign in is it # and not$ ? Or is a case of me having to do this to get control every time?

[matt_symes]

Hi

AAAAARGH ! I promise I had tried this earlier. I promise you it did not work. I think it works now beacuse I was playing around in terminal following some simple command training (ls cd pwd) etc. and one of the commands changed the account from a # to a $. The question now is why when I first sign in is it # and not$ ? Or is a case of me having to do this to get control every time?

Your login password should be all you need to type to authenticate you to the system and allow you to install software, change system setting etc. Enter it anytime you are asked for a password.

It's designed to make the system secure by not allowing anybody, or indeed any application, to install other software unless it has been authenticated. There are caveats on the last statement but you'll learn them in time.

I see what you mean about the abiword plugin page. I can see no opton to delete/disable plugins either.

We should be able to disable them from the terminal though.

Close abiword if it is open.

Open a terminal and copy and paste

sudo chmod 000 /usr/lib/*/abiword-2.9/plugins/*

Enter your password as before. It will not be echoed to the screen.

Open abiword again. Is it still running at high CPU ? If so, then it's not the plugins causing the problem. If it is we can try to identify which plugin is causing the problem.

To re-enable all the plugins, copy and paste this into the terminal...

sudo chmod 755 /usr/lib/*/abiword-2.9/plugins/*

Kind regards

[Mark Scott]

Ok don't worry the end user had me out in the garden. Apparently it's going to rain. I disabled the plugins and checked they had gone (they had).

Abi Word is still hogging the processor I put them back as below

I am sure when I first log in the password did not work. Perhaps it is designed this way so you can't break it until you know something. I am certain when I started playing with terminal it was # and now it is $

iris@iris-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 755 /usr/lib/*/abiword-2.9/plugins/*
[sudo] password for iris: 
iris@iris-desktop:~$

and for your amusement:

 iris@iris-desktop:~$ lshwWARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
iris-desktop              
    description: Computer
    width: 32 bits
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       physical id: 0
     *-memory
          description: System memory
          physical id: 0
          size: 306MiB
     *-cpu
          product: Pentium II (Klamath)
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 1
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 6.3.4
          size: 300MHz
          width: 32 bits
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov mmx
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 0
             size: 32KiB
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 1
             size: 512KiB
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 03
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-intel latency=32
          resources: irq:0 memory:e0000000-e3ffffff
        *-pci
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
             version: 03
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
             resources: ioport:d000(size=4096) memory:e4000000-e5ffffff memory:e6000000-e7ffffff
           *-display UNCLAIMED
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: NV5 [Riva TNT2 Ultra]
                vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 11
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
                configuration: latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
                resources: memory:e4000000-e4ffffff memory:e6000000-e7ffffff memory:e5000000-e500ffff
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 7
             bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master
             configuration: latency=0
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 7.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:07.1
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master
             configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=32
             resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:f000(size=16)
        *-usb
             description: USB controller
             product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 7.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:07.2
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=32
             resources: irq:11 ioport:e000(size=32)
        *-bridge
             description: Bridge
             product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 7.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:07.3
             version: 01
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: bridge
             configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0
             resources: irq:9
  *-network
       description: Wireless interface
       physical id: 1
       bus info: usb@1:2
       logical name: wlan0
             capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
       WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.
iris@iris-desktop:~$

[matt_symes]

Hi

Ok don't worry the end user had me out in the garden.

Hopefully you're let back in before the rain.

Try installing libreoffice and see if that is any better.

Kind reagrds

[Mark Scott]

I am a bit wary as Libre's requirements are little beyond my system. I only want a word processing package. I am up for getting rid of this version a Abi Word and getting the so called stable version though. I can delete it via the GUI (I have already deleted the Bluetooth support). If I get it again through Lubuntu it will just give me the same version will it not? Either that or I can try getting Wine and installing Word 2000? If this is not your area of expertise I can always start a new thread and look for people who have done it.

[Mark Scott]

Read some more stuff and am having a pop with Libre Office writer it's in the Lubuntu Software Centre. If it's no good there are a couple of other smallish looking wordy things I can try. Will it tell me when it's done it ? Got a feeling it's going to take a while. Where can I look to see if it hapening O.K. ?

[Mark Scott]

You will all be pleased to hear that Libre Office Writer goes like an express train on heat.

Processor gets up to about 30% even when hitting all the keys at once and there is no latency at all.

When you press a key it appears on the screen!

It looks a 100% better and somehow seems a lot more familiar and easier to use.

Thanks for putting up with me for a few hours and I expect I will be back soon when she breaks it!

One final request for tonight what other apps can I get rid of to help limit the installation size?

I have already got rid of the Bluetooth support is there anything other than Abi Word ? I'll keep the e-mail and internet stuff for now as it is usefull when I need to bother you

[owise1]

I suspect that what you are seeing is a request for the gnome keyring - it is a tool for collecting and storing a number of passwords that you may use on your system. Have you just tried hitting cancel when the request comes up. It may warn you that you are selecting an unsafe storage method but you can ignore that if only you and your better half are using the machine. Have a google of gnome keyring or find the application called passwords and authentication under preferences. Also bung some more memory in that PC - will give a better experience

[Rob Sayer]

Nice to hear libre worked better.

Don't assume that something like abiword will be faster than something like libre writer because it takes less memory. That's a myth and it has been for a long time. Smaller memory usage does not equal more speed. In fact usually the opposite is true.

While you can't assume that anything that uses more RAM is faster, generally faster programs use more memory. That's been a consustent tradeoff for years.

[matt_symes]

Hi

You will all be pleased to hear that Libre Office Writer goes like an express train on heat.

Processor gets up to about 30% even when hitting all the keys at once and there is no latency at all.

When you press a key it appears on the screen!

It looks a 100% better and somehow seems a lot more familiar and easier to use.

Thanks for putting up with me for a few hours and I expect I will be back soon when she breaks it!

One final request for tonight what other apps can I get rid of to help limit the installation size?

I have already got rid of the Bluetooth support is there anything other than Abi Word ? I'll keep the e-mail and internet stuff for now as it is usefull when I need to bother you

I'm really glad to hear that my initial misgivings about installing Lubuntu and getting a working system on that box were misplaced

Well done for keeping that ancient hardware out of the landfill. I must say that i did expect to see it struggle running some of the applications. I expected more CPU speed issues.

I'm subscribed to this thread so, if you need to bother me or anyone else here, i will be one of the ones getting a notification.

As for uninstalling/disabling things, that depends on what you will need the box for in the end. If it works at the moment then I'd keep everything until you are sure you will not be using it.

Kind regards